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> 914 in Carbon Fiber, Its a street car too!
Brett W
post Dec 1 2004, 08:13 PM
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This guy doesn't "owe" me shit. I just don't think all this hokey pokey secrecy crap is necessary. So he has a cool car, yah for him. A tube frame 914 is nothing new. Carbon body work is nothing new. A turbo 914 is nothing new. Yes he is giong to be doing some pretty cool stuff, yes it will cost more money than I have right now. So? It is not like he is hiding some championship race winning car. This car will live in some rich guy's garage and never get driven the way it should. Seems to be a trend among the ultra rich. So what? Not my money and not my problem.

Sharing information is what makes this forum such a great place. Because you guys can watch a National Championship race car go together and learn about the work that goes into a full blown 914-6 restoration, this is a great place to hang out.

I have talked with IMSA, SCCA, Winston Cup, and NHRA professional drivers, engine builders, chassis and suspension guys, fabricators, etc. Most all of the ones I have dealt with have been more than happy to share what info they have.
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post Dec 1 2004, 08:21 PM
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Jake, it's all in good fun.

I know now that I'm almost fifty...it took me a while. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

btw..I think Jesus would agree!
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post Dec 1 2004, 08:24 PM
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ask him to at least guarantee us an exclusive at the debut, ok?
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post Dec 1 2004, 08:25 PM
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Just to explain the Rousch comment. I did some work for TK when he was driving for him and I had the pleasure of hanging out in the paddock. They would keep the rear end of the car under a cover at all times pre race so know one would know their "secret". Well ,it appears too many teams were too busy trying to figure the secret out when they should have been focused on their own development.

The rest is history.
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Jake Raby
post Dec 1 2004, 09:17 PM
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One of my friends is a foreman at a top NASCAR engine shop very close to my shop. They moved in and bought 200 acres and built the shop right in the middle of it. They baffled the dynos so quiet you never knew they were there....

As soon as the word got around they were screwed and now have a fence all around and an armed guard at a gate house.....

They don't share anything, I used to get some info on certain things but he only shares cam stuff with me now and a bit on oils and pressures and thats about it. BTW i have known this guy for 15 years to boot....

But they are playing for millions and not working on 30-40 year old engines for enthusiasts.....Although they do build a mean ass Superformance engine for the Cobra replica guys- I saw one make 700 streetable HP on their dyno 2 years ago!

Right up the road from them is Barry Grant's carb shop- Its a great team effort! they are all back in the woods just like me!
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post Dec 1 2004, 10:15 PM
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959... that's one of those fuched up 6 cylinder thingies isn't it Jake? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Dec 1 2004, 10:27 PM
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I think so....

I quit counting after 914....... Thats the last porscheee they ever made.... LOL
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post Dec 1 2004, 10:33 PM
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You guys want me to draw a picture of the car Jake can't show us?


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post Dec 1 2004, 11:42 PM
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A 959 one of the most signicant Porsche ever tech spec follow I would have one in my garage parked next ot a 914 oh course. It is no slouch of a car even by todays standards. Us version where a 1987 model year.

Specifications
Engine:

Horizontally opposed 6 cylinder, 24-valve DOHC aluminum block and water-cooled heads
Bore and stroke: 3.74" x 2.64"
Displacement:174 cu.in. or 2849cc
Max boost pressure: 14.0 psi
Horsepower: 450@6,500 rpm
Power to weight ratio: 6.6 lbs per horsepower
Compression ratio: 8.3:1
Cd: .31
Fuel system: Bosch Motronic
Induction: Twin sequential turbocharging

Drivetrain:
6 speed electronically controlled 4wd with 4 settings

Suspension:

Electronically adjustable independent f/r with upper and lower A arms, hydraulic shocks, anti-roll bar/coil.

Body:

Kevlar and aluminum

Dimensions:

Curb weight: 2,917 lbs
Wheelbase: 89.4"
Length: 167.7"
Width: 72.4"
Height: 47.2"

Brakes and Wheels:

ABS, power assisted, vented, cross drilled disks
17x8.0" front,17x9.0" rear cast magnesium wheels with pressure sensors to detect hairline cracks

Fuel Economy:

13 mpg

Performance:

0-60mph: 3.6 seconds (US version: 3.5s)
0-100: 8.3
0-125: 12.7
0-140: 19.0
0-1/4 mile: 11.8s @119 mph
Top Speed: 198++ mph


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post Dec 1 2004, 11:45 PM
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Some of us can imagine.

I think this dream car for a wealthy owner will be worth every thousand-dollars they spend on it.

959... the $1m porsche that had in the 80s what every Porsche has from 2000 on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 2 2004, 12:06 AM
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I still think the 959 is one of the ugliest cars Porsche ever made (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)
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post Dec 2 2004, 12:14 AM
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Looks like a 911 with a bad body kit!
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post Dec 2 2004, 12:34 AM
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Yah. And I'm putting a ferrari V12 in a VW beetle. No pics though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Sounds like a cool project. Post pics when/if you can.
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post Dec 2 2004, 02:55 AM
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The entire car weighs 1300 pounds and is based on a full tube chassis, all covered with correct 914 body panels in Carbon Fiber/Kevlar with a Black and Yellow weave.... the suspension is also amazing and looks like an ALMS car with massive ducting and incredible brakes.

The guuy is a composites engineer and has made all the panels himself

Sound similiar to the guy who built the twin turbo v8 914

If you provide more details, I can provide a sketch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Dec 2 2004, 03:34 AM
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nice sketch, i should take up sketching/painting(acrylic) again, but then again all this time is being spent on the 14 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) o wells
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post Dec 2 2004, 05:30 AM
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All I have to say is cool.

I like the idea and I know when the car is done it will be driven some where, some time, some place and pictures will show up of it then.

Guys with big "Bank" (as Brad calls it) like to be quiet about it and I don't blame them.

All I need is those 6 lotto numbers and I'll be one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
(Yes I know lottos are nothing more than self imposed taxes, but it beats the return I got on my Enron shares)

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post Dec 2 2004, 05:47 AM
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QUOTE(GWN7 @ Dec 2 2004, 03:30 AM)
All I need is those 6 lotto numbers and I'll be one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
(Yes I know lottos are nothing more than self imposed taxes, but it beats the return I got on my Enron shares)

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post Dec 2 2004, 05:57 AM
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The entire car weighs 1300 pounds.... with massive ducting and incredible brakes.


Why'd you need massive ducting/brakes on a 1300# car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Dec 2 2004, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(redshift @ Dec 1 2004, 11:33 PM)
You guys want me to draw a picture of the car Jake can't show us?


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In a word, yes. In a few more words, don't forget the close-up of the camshaft.

I think this is fun, I don't mind not seeing the car now, and hopefully I get to eventually. I mean, it's not like someone's carbon fibre body panels are going to literally help get my car off jackstands. What they might do though, which is what a lot of you guys do for me, is provide inspiration.


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How's that for mueba?
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post Aug 5 2005, 09:11 AM
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since Jake ignored me in another thread, thought I'd dig this one up (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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