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New 914 owner, 914 running like crap... |
Mario Nicola |
Jun 24 2013, 12:47 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 31-May 13 From: Newmarket, ON Member No.: 15,940 Region Association: None |
Hey Guys.
I just bought a new 1972 Porsche 914 1.7L, the Previous owner let it sit for 2-3 years in storage... The Car looks great but isn't running very well, I cant get it above 50mph and its a struggle to get it up to that speed. I have swapped out the plugs, plug wires and air filter and put some new Gas and fuel injector cleaner in the tank but the problem still continue... I was thinking its time to replace the fuel injectors next... any suggestions or has anybody else run into the same problems with there 914's. Thanks Mario |
914itis |
Jun 24 2013, 01:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
You will need to post more info about the car. Engine size , fuel injection, carbs, etc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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Steve |
Jun 24 2013, 01:55 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,589 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
You should post this in the garage for more feedback. This is the classifieds.
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JeffBowlsby |
Jun 24 2013, 02:35 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
The distributor weights need a drop of 30 wt oil every year to keep them lubed. If they are binding, that could cause your conditions...
They are oiled by putting a drop of oil in the hollow center of the distributor shaft, after removing the rotor. |
Mario Nicola |
Jun 24 2013, 03:30 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 31-May 13 From: Newmarket, ON Member No.: 15,940 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the Feedback I will repost in the garage section, as you can tell I'm new to the 914, as well as 914world.com
Thanks again. M |
etcmss |
Jun 25 2013, 03:00 AM
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etcmss Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 20-April 06 From: Lancaster, Ky Member No.: 5,899 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
not knowing what this car has been through in repairs , is it limited in range by the accelerator?
is the supply and return gas line connections swapped? I had this happen a long while ago and its a thought. Gary |
Elcid |
Jun 25 2013, 04:44 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 5-August 07 From: Denver, Co. Member No.: 7,978 |
not knowing what this car has been through in repairs , is it limited in range by the accelerator? is the supply and return gas line connections swapped? I had this happen a long while ago and its a thought. Gary Start with the simple stuff; 1. Did you drain fuel tank? 2. Try replacing fuel filter. 3. Try changing the fuel relays ( I had a bad one cause similar issue) 4. Check fuel pump pressure 5. Of course do a "tune up" points, cap, rotor. get a copy of 914 tips from Automobile Atlanta.....have fun |
TheCabinetmaker |
Jun 25 2013, 05:58 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
So we now have 2 of these threads? did you ever respond to the first one?
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gunny |
Jun 25 2013, 06:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Madison Al Member No.: 15,051 Region Association: South East States |
Don't buy new injectors, send them to "Mr. Injector" for cleaning.
I just mailed mine last week on Monday night and got them back on Saturday(Alabama to Idaho bact to Alabama). $16 per injector + shipping. I had rough Idol, and not very smooth power. Now Idol is smooth and noticable power improvement. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Mr. Injector flow tests the injectors then replaces the soft parts (screen, ect) sconic cleans them them flow tests them again then cleans the exterior. You get a report showing the following: resistance of coils initial flow rate (cc's per 15 min) initial flow patern (good, fair, poor) finial flow rate (cc's per 15 min) finial flow patern (good, fair, poor) My initial flow was 110, 103, 105, 97 My initial flow patern was G, F, G, F My finial flow rate 110, 110, 110, 110 very good balance My finial flow patern G, G, G, G He also provided both large and small gromets, new 3"hose with clamp. I highly reccomend if you car has set up for a long time or during rebuild of motor. It was money well spent. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
76-914 |
Jun 25 2013, 01:15 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,503 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
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worn |
Jun 25 2013, 02:21 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,156 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I had the same experience. My car had been owned by the wife of an NFL player and she must not have liked it. 19 year old tires with new nubs? Anyway, it helps to be systematic. To do this yourself you will unfortunately have to understand how the fuel injection system works and then whether it is working. As an example, during my trip home with the little fellow the fuel pressure regulator was stuck open from disuse and was feed three times too much fuel into the engine. Look at the Rennlist tech articles for that and here as well. The vacuum hoses have to all seal and the components have to all work. It is disjointed but George Husseys 700 tips book is actually not bad. The spark is pretty simple if you are used to the era of points. Still new wires and plugs, cap and rotor won't set you back too far. Some of the connectors for the plugs require you to remove the little aluminum top from the spark plug, but the newer ones do not. This board has some working mechanics answering questions so the quality of advice is high. You are at the right place. Also, you bought a cool car. |
Ian Stott |
Jun 25 2013, 03:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 907 Joined: 28-January 08 From: Moncton/Canada Member No.: 8,635 Region Association: Canada |
Congrats on your "new" teener, do all the free stuff first, clean everything the best you can. Read up on cleaning your fuel sock, check your inline fuel filter and how old is the gas?? This is a good start, knowing your fuel is clean, fresh and getting to the injectors unrestricted should be done before you touch your injectors. Clean and gap your plugs, check your air filter, try her again. The more you run it the better it will work. If still crappy then go deeper, great people here with way more knowledge than me, but sometimes looking after basic maintenance will cure a lot of problems.
Ian Stott Moncton Canada |
green914 |
Jun 26 2013, 02:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,467 Joined: 29-March 11 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 12,874 Region Association: Northern California |
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mepstein |
Jun 26 2013, 04:35 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,276 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Don't buy new injectors, send them to "Mr. Injector" for cleaning. I just mailed mine last week on Monday night and got them back on Saturday(Alabama to Idaho bact to Alabama). $16 per injector + shipping. I had rough Idol, and not very smooth power. Now Idol is smooth and noticable power improvement. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Mr. Injector flow tests the injectors then replaces the soft parts (screen, ect) sconic cleans them them flow tests them again then cleans the exterior. You get a report showing the following: resistance of coils initial flow rate (cc's per 15 min) initial flow patern (good, fair, poor) finial flow rate (cc's per 15 min) finial flow patern (good, fair, poor) My initial flow was 110, 103, 105, 97 My initial flow patern was G, F, G, F My finial flow rate 110, 110, 110, 110 very good balance My finial flow patern G, G, G, G He also provided both large and small gromets, new 3"hose with clamp. I highly reccomend if you car has set up for a long time or during rebuild of motor. It was money well spent. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) He did mine. Very happy with his service. I will be sending him my 911 injectors to service. |
L-Jet914 |
Jun 27 2013, 01:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 237 Joined: 24-October 12 From: Davis, CA Member No.: 15,080 Region Association: Northern California |
I agree with everyone else so far in terms of what to check. Also check for vacuum leaks. I switched my points to Petronix, though I have a set of points as a back up.
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Jun 27 2013, 02:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
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EdwardBlume |
Jun 27 2013, 10:44 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
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