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bulitt |
Jul 2 2013, 09:12 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
Scraping the tar off my 1970 floorpans. Was wondering...
They obviously put this stuff down in sheets. Did they heat the car to bond it? or figured the Sun would take care of it. Why didnt they paint the floors prior? So I always thought they laid down a flat product. But as many might have discovered, here is what I found. A hexagon pattern on the floor. But why? Easy to re-position? Allow flexibility? Maybe to keep separated in shipping? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Mr.242 |
Jul 2 2013, 12:05 PM
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May your glass be smaller so it's always FULL! Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 10-June 08 From: Seattle Member No.: 9,160 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Bottom piece that sat on the wires shelf of the factory? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
I don't remember seeing that on mine when I removed it. Review of my pictures on the build, reminded me that I did have the same pattern. Damn, I hate getting old. But to my defense: I didn't dwell, contemplate, or even care about anything but getting that tar off the floor pans. |
scotty b |
Jul 3 2013, 07:03 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
From my experience that pattern change over the years. I don't recall which was first, but I have seen that hex pattern on some and a straight line pattern on others. I doubt seriously the car was heated, most likely the tar was heated. That is how I have done 356 door jamb tar over the years. Set it in place, heat with a heat gun, and press down. I suspect that is pretty close to how the factory did it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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SirAndy |
Jul 3 2013, 09:40 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,658 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Bottom piece that sat on the wires shelf of the factory? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Probably just the last sheet from the shelf ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
bulitt |
Jul 4 2013, 06:27 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
Hmmm- Dont read German. Tar? Polyester?
DÄMMSCHAUM-MATTE mit Oberflächenprägung, 10mm DÄMMSCHAUM-MATTE mit Oberflächenprägung, 10mm 27,91 EUR 19 % VAT incl. excl. Shipping costs Product no.: ISO-911 Große Dämmschaum-Matte aus grauem Polyesterschaum mit strukturierter Oberfläche, selbstklebend. Dieses Material dient zur Geräuschdämmung und Wärmeisolierung. Mit der gut aussehenden Oberflächenprägung kann der Dämmschaum auch sichtbar eingesetzt werden, z.B. im Motorraum, im Kofferraum und an der Heckklappe von Fahrzeugen. Dämmschaum eignet sich auch zur Dämmung von Lieferwagen und Wohnmobilen. Einfach zu verarbeiten: die Matte läßt sich mit einer guten Schere zuschneiden. Anschließend Folie abziehen - ankleben - fertig. Diese Dämmschau-Matte ist ca. 10mm dick und 100x160cm groß. |
bulitt |
Jul 4 2013, 06:54 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
Early 911-
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/forums.pelicanparts.com-13632-1372942474.1.jpg) Looks like this stuff was (is) produced by Wurth. Bitumen Sound deadening pads. Used to reduce noise and dampen engine drone. Thinking the honeycomb pattern was used to help separate the sheets, or the manufacturing machine might have had a roller with this pattern that prevented the product from sticking (small surface area). Wurth continues to sell two products one for GM OEM replacement and the bitumen sheets(now with polyester backing). I am assuming these old sheets are highly flammable once ignited. Which maybe a good reason to remove them. |
scotty b |
Jul 5 2013, 12:33 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Not highly flammable. they melt more than anything, but they will ignite and burn. I use a MAPP gas torch to get it out without any flame ups
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bulitt |
Jul 8 2013, 07:33 PM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
Bottom piece that sat on the wires shelf of the factory? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I don't remember seeing that on mine when I removed it. Review of my pictures on the build, reminded me that I did have the same pattern. Damn, I hate getting old. But to my defense: I didn't dwell, contemplate, or even care about anything but getting that tar off the floor pans. I really dont care about the tar either, just wanted to sneak a thread by Garvey (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
THE STIG |
Jul 16 2013, 07:03 PM
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"Some say" Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 6-June 09 From: The Track Member No.: 10,444 Region Association: England |
My car had the exact same honeycomb pattern, March 1970 build.
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rjames |
Jul 16 2013, 10:19 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,939 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
My '75 had a 'lined' pattern. Wow, talk about minutiae. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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scotty b |
Jul 24 2013, 07:28 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
interesting. A 86 911 i have in has the hex pattern, Cairo's 6 has the lined pattern. I don't think it is yearly related, maybe 2 different suppliers ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
You want minutia ? Go hang out on the 356 Registry or Early S registry sometime . The land of date stamped wheels (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
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