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> 75 LJet will not fire, PHASE 2: still not starting...Phase 3: not idling, PHASE 4: fine tune!
malcolm2
post Jul 9 2013, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jul 9 2013, 10:28 PM) *

I find it easy to put the passenger rear wheel on the ground. Jack up the rear driver side wheel and put the car in 5th gear. Spin the wheel by hand



No axles yet. Not sure about finding 5th gear either. Even at that don't I need to feel for the top of the piston?
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post Jul 9 2013, 09:52 PM
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It's dangerous, anything you put in that spark plug hole will be sheared off by the piston. You really need to find the mark on the fan.
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post Jul 9 2013, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jul 9 2013, 10:52 PM) *

It's dangerous, anything you put in that spark plug hole will be sheared off by the piston. You really need to find the mark on the fan.


Yes, I have read stuff about chop sticks.... I was not going to turn the engine with anything in the spark plug hole, just probing it AFTER I bump the engine. Anyway, the button is pointing at the mark on the top edge of the dizzy, I will see about the fan. I am looking for the timing mark, correct?

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post Jul 9 2013, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Jul 9 2013, 10:57 PM) *

QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jul 9 2013, 10:52 PM) *

It's dangerous, anything you put in that spark plug hole will be sheared off by the piston. You really need to find the mark on the fan.


Yes, I have read stuff about chop sticks.... I was not going to turn the engine with anything in the spark plug hole, just probing it AFTER I bump the engine. Anyway, the button is pointing at the mark on the top edge of the dizzy, I will see about the fan. I am looking for the timing mark, correct?

Clark


OK, with the button pointed at the mark, I look into the timing hole and see nothing. I marked the edge of the fan during assembly with a couple marks to help me time the engine, in the future. If I am standing at the rear of the car, facing forward, those marks would be at 10 o'clock on the fan, maybe 10:30.

I assume they should be 12 o'clock, correct?

Do you follow?

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post Jul 9 2013, 10:07 PM
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Never mind the position of the dizzy's rotor for now. Mount up on your car and stare down the inspection hole. Look at the v knotch and spin the fan. You should see a red line, when you do, inspect the rockers at cylinder one. You have a 50-50 chance that when the mark is in between the v knotch that the piston is very close to tdc. If the rocker is pushing, spin the fan 360 degrees and recheck the rockers.
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post Jul 9 2013, 10:14 PM
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Never mind the position of the dizzy's rotor for now. Mount up on your car and stare down the inspection hole. Look at the v knotch and spin the fan. You should see a red line, when you do, inspect the rockers at cylinder one. You have a 50-50 chance that when the mark is in between the v knotch that the piston is very close to tdc. If the rocker is pushing, spin the fan 360 degrees and recheck the rockers.


I know it's getting late, I appreciate your help, shut me down whenever your ready....

I am not 100% sure, but using my mirror and my marks on the edge of the fan, I think I put the red mark exactly on the V notch. I do have a slight wiggle on both rockers for #1.
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post Jul 9 2013, 10:23 PM
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Excellent, with the red mark between the v knotch and you have rocker slack at number one cylinder, says we are good. Where ever you rotor is pointing, put the number one plug wire on it. Then 4,3,2 wires in a clockwise fashion, then start your beast.
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post Jul 9 2013, 10:26 PM
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Excellent, with the red mark between the v knotch and you have rocker slack at number one cylinder, says we are good. Where ever you rotor is pointing, put the number one plug wire on it. Then 4,3,2 wires in a clockwise fashion, then start your beast.


It is not quite pointing at a plug wire, but what the hay, I am doing it.

be right back.
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post Jul 9 2013, 10:28 PM
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Spin the dizzy so it's pointing at the number one lead
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post Jul 9 2013, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Jul 9 2013, 11:26 PM) *

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Excellent, with the red mark between the v knotch and you have rocker slack at number one cylinder, says we are good. Where ever you rotor is pointing, put the number one plug wire on it. Then 4,3,2 wires in a clockwise fashion, then start your beast.


It is not quite pointing at a plug wire, but what the hay, I am doing it.

be right back.



Still nothing! Man I thought you had it there.
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post Jul 9 2013, 10:52 PM
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Which way did you turn the distributor to align the rotor with the number one lead?
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post Jul 9 2013, 10:56 PM
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Which way did you turn the distributor to align the rotor with the number one lead?


I moved the plug wires. The button turns clockwise, so I moved #1 and then moved the others clockwise in the firing order.

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post Jul 9 2013, 11:01 PM
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Try moving the dizzy counter clockwise a smidge and try again
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post Jul 9 2013, 11:09 PM
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Try moving the dizzy counter clockwise a smidge and try again


No go on the smidge.
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post Jul 9 2013, 11:12 PM
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Lets start over. Line up the red mark with the v knotch and verify both rocker arms wiggle on the number 1 cylinder.
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Lets start over. Line up the red mark with the v knotch and verify both rocker arms wiggle on the number 1 cylinder.


will do.
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post Jul 9 2013, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Jul 10 2013, 12:12 AM) *

QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jul 10 2013, 12:12 AM) *

Lets start over. Line up the red mark with the v knotch and verify both rocker arms wiggle on the number 1 cylinder.


will do.


OK, I have the red mark at the notch. And I do have a wiggle on both rockers. 1 is wiggling a bit more than the other, but both are noticeable vs before being very very tight.
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Can you post a pic of the rotor, so we can see which way it's pointing?
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post Jul 9 2013, 11:35 PM
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Can you post a pic of the rotor, so we can see which way it's pointing?



Straight right (passenger side)

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