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> 75 LJet will not fire, PHASE 2: still not starting...Phase 3: not idling, PHASE 4: fine tune!
malcolm2
post Jul 9 2013, 08:09 PM
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Summary: rescued 75 with L-jet: HAM repaired heads, 9550 cam from Type 4 store, All engine harnesses from Bowlsby, 96mm pistons from type 4 store (1911cc), Injectors cleaned by Cruzin Performance...(twice), engine sat for 12 mths while I worked on rust from sitting for 10 years, etc...

A couple weekends ago I went thru EXTENSIVE troubleshooting with Timothy_ND29 (huge thank you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) ), but the engine would not fire. That is the above link....

We ended up determining that my fresh injectors were clogged cause they sat for 12+ months. CruzinPerformance "woke them up" last week and they arrived back here today. I don't know what else to test: EVERYTHING operates, EVERYTHING:

1. 35+ psi fuel pressure
2. Starter turns engine with the key.
3. Noid lights at all injectors LIGHT
4. Spark plugs at all plugs SPARK
5. Injectors squirt (tested 1 and 2)
6. Valves actually move (I had to know it the damn thing was moving on the inside)

Here is the big one: After installing the fresh injectors, I did hear a slight fire, or poot of a backfire. Then nothing. I took the air box off and sprayed starting fluid in the intake while trying to start and STILL NOTHING. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)

Question 1: How much spark do I need?
Question 2: How much squirt do I need?

Both happened, but they seemed weak, or small.

Need more help, I feel like the doctor that left a sponge in his patient.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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malcolm2   75 LJet will not fire   Jul 9 2013, 08:09 PM
timothy_nd28   Timing being off isn't helping matters. Of co...   Aug 24 2013, 08:31 AM
malcolm2   Timing being off isn't helping matters. Of c...   Aug 24 2013, 09:10 AM
timothy_nd28   Timing being off isn't helping matters. Of ...   Aug 24 2013, 09:13 AM
malcolm2   Sorry, I was making sure that you had the exhaust...   Aug 24 2013, 10:14 AM
malcolm2   I think I am dealing with just exhaust now. Not r...   Aug 24 2013, 09:03 AM
SLITS   I think I will join the party. The De-accel valve...   Aug 24 2013, 10:10 AM
malcolm2   No idle, possibly the vane in the AFM is stickin...   Aug 24 2013, 10:20 AM
timothy_nd28   So no vacuum leaks, and you have a 2000 rpm sweet ...   Aug 24 2013, 10:20 AM
timothy_nd28   you can access the airflow meter flap by removing ...   Aug 24 2013, 10:23 AM
malcolm2   you can access the airflow meter flap by removing...   Aug 24 2013, 10:27 AM
timothy_nd28   Car off, just checking if the flap moves freely wi...   Aug 24 2013, 10:28 AM
SLITS   All you will see if you remove the cover on the AF...   Aug 24 2013, 10:34 AM
malcolm2   All you will see if you remove the cover on the A...   Aug 24 2013, 10:38 AM
malcolm2   All you will see if you remove the cover on the A...   Aug 24 2013, 10:43 AM
SLITS   [quote name='SLITS' post='1914398' date='Aug 24 2...   Aug 24 2013, 10:52 AM
SLITS   AFM looks clean. Did the vane move freely with no...   Aug 24 2013, 10:41 AM
malcolm2   AFM looks clean. Did the vane move freely with n...   Aug 24 2013, 10:47 AM
timothy_nd28   On the airflow meter, remove the connector and loc...   Aug 24 2013, 10:42 AM
malcolm2   On the airflow meter, remove the connector and lo...   Aug 24 2013, 10:45 AM
Racer Chris   Opening that screw allows intake air to bypass the...   Aug 24 2013, 11:01 AM
malcolm2   Opening that screw allows intake air to bypass th...   Aug 24 2013, 07:56 PM
timothy_nd28   A honey to do list... Pull the ECU connector off ...   Aug 24 2013, 02:48 PM
malcolm2   Pull the ECU connector off and check these pins w...   Aug 25 2013, 10:00 AM
timothy_nd28   RE: 75 LJet will not fire   Aug 24 2013, 02:59 PM
timothy_nd28   The places where I put black x's,,install a ru...   Aug 24 2013, 03:00 PM
timothy_nd28   here you go   Aug 24 2013, 03:20 PM
malcolm2   here you go My car is a 75. It has the EGR va...   Aug 25 2013, 08:20 AM
SLITS   The EGR valve is not necessary for the car to run....   Aug 25 2013, 08:59 AM
malcolm2   seems to run much rougher, but still will not idle...   Aug 25 2013, 11:02 AM
malcolm2   seems to run much ruougher, but still will not id...   Aug 25 2013, 11:43 AM
timothy_nd28   I'm at a birthday party right now, I'll go...   Aug 25 2013, 12:37 PM
timothy_nd28   Looks like a few numbers is slightly out of tolera...   Aug 25 2013, 05:53 PM
malcolm2   Looks like a few numbers is slightly out of toler...   Aug 25 2013, 06:37 PM
timothy_nd28   This may be the problem. Pulling the lead off a w...   Aug 25 2013, 07:07 PM
malcolm2   This may be the problem. Pulling the lead off a ...   Aug 25 2013, 08:00 PM
timothy_nd28   One more thought, having the sparkplug firing orde...   Aug 25 2013, 07:56 PM
malcolm2   One more thought, having the sparkplug firing ord...   Aug 25 2013, 08:25 PM
timothy_nd28   Guy's I'm at a loss here. Engine should st...   Aug 26 2013, 10:20 AM
Racer Chris   Guy's I'm at a loss here. Engine should s...   Aug 26 2013, 10:51 AM
malcolm2   Guy's I'm at a loss here. Engine should ...   Aug 26 2013, 11:12 AM
Racer Chris   ... I would assume I would just do the "unp...   Aug 26 2013, 11:23 AM
malcolm2   ... I would assume I would just do the "un...   Aug 26 2013, 01:40 PM
Racer Chris   If there was a stuck open situation, the pressure...   Aug 26 2013, 01:45 PM
timothy_nd28   Yup I agree, but still confused on what's goin...   Aug 26 2013, 02:29 PM
malcolm2   Yup I agree, but still confused on what's goi...   Aug 26 2013, 06:56 PM
SLITS   I am going to assume that all injectors are firing...   Aug 26 2013, 02:40 PM
malcolm2   I am going to assume that all injectors are firin...   Aug 26 2013, 03:01 PM
SLITS   I throw in the towel!   Aug 26 2013, 04:33 PM
The Cabinetmaker   I throw in the towel! : lol4: that's w...   Aug 26 2013, 05:49 PM
pilothyer   The suspense is killin' me...planning a little...   Aug 26 2013, 05:33 PM
Mblizzard   The suspense is killin' me...planning a littl...   Aug 26 2013, 06:27 PM
timothy_nd28   Totally! 13 pages and still a nonfunctional e...   Aug 26 2013, 05:51 PM
malcolm2   Totally! 13 pages and still a nonfunctional ...   Aug 26 2013, 06:34 PM
malcolm2   isn't the motto of teeners: "there are al...   Aug 26 2013, 06:31 PM
timothy_nd28   you may find that the cam gear is a tooth off,, :e...   Aug 26 2013, 06:35 PM
malcolm2   you may find that the cam gear is a tooth off,, :...   Aug 26 2013, 06:38 PM
timothy_nd28   Your very close, and I wouldn't throw in the t...   Aug 26 2013, 06:44 PM
timothy_nd28   about how many turns on the bypass screw on the AF...   Aug 26 2013, 06:58 PM
malcolm2   about how many turns on the bypass screw on the A...   Aug 26 2013, 06:59 PM
timothy_nd28   screw it back to its original setting of 2.5 turns...   Aug 26 2013, 07:01 PM
malcolm2   screw it back to its original setting of 2.5 turn...   Aug 26 2013, 07:08 PM
timothy_nd28   k, now try 1.5 turns on the AFM bypass screw. (th...   Aug 26 2013, 07:10 PM
malcolm2   k, now try 1.5 turns on the AFM bypass screw. (t...   Aug 26 2013, 07:20 PM
timothy_nd28   can you get this to idle around 900, long enough t...   Aug 26 2013, 07:22 PM
malcolm2   can you get this to idle around 900, long enough ...   Aug 26 2013, 07:26 PM
timothy_nd28   do you have one or two vacuum lines on the dizzy a...   Aug 26 2013, 07:28 PM
malcolm2   do you have one or two vacuum lines on the dizzy ...   Aug 26 2013, 07:35 PM
timothy_nd28   the bottom tic is [s]750 700 rpm   Aug 26 2013, 07:31 PM
timothy_nd28   confused, thought you just moved it a smidge CCW a...   Aug 26 2013, 07:38 PM
malcolm2   confused, thought you just moved it a smidge CCW ...   Aug 26 2013, 08:00 PM
timothy_nd28   did the dizzy need to turn more CCW to get it on t...   Aug 26 2013, 08:04 PM
malcolm2   did the dizzy need to turn more CCW to get it on ...   Aug 26 2013, 08:15 PM
zambezi   Back to the injectors... could an injector be part...   Aug 26 2013, 08:06 PM
timothy_nd28   :agree: a good point   Aug 26 2013, 08:09 PM
timothy_nd28   Okay, put the dizzy back where it idles the best f...   Aug 26 2013, 08:22 PM
malcolm2   I guess all I really need is axles and brakes and ...   Aug 26 2013, 08:51 PM
timothy_nd28   Also, since you have the AFM cover removed. Get t...   Aug 26 2013, 08:52 PM
malcolm2   Also, since you have the AFM cover removed. Get ...   Aug 26 2013, 08:58 PM
timothy_nd28   Also, since you have the AFM cover removed. Get...   Aug 26 2013, 09:13 PM
timothy_nd28   Leave them plugged for now, lets get your engine w...   Aug 26 2013, 08:57 PM
timothy_nd28   Black22, could you chime in with the process you s...   Aug 26 2013, 09:01 PM
timothy_nd28   Don't touch the black carbon track on the resi...   Aug 26 2013, 09:15 PM
Black22   Read this...three times...you will then reveal the...   Aug 26 2013, 09:18 PM
timothy_nd28   :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: Than...   Aug 26 2013, 09:19 PM
malcolm2   :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: Tha...   Aug 26 2013, 10:04 PM
malcolm2   let's see if this works. I am trying to link ...   Aug 27 2013, 07:46 PM
gunny   The TB vacuum line on the firewall side of the TB ...   Aug 27 2013, 07:58 PM
malcolm2   The TB vacuum line on the firewall side of the TB...   Aug 27 2013, 08:21 PM
timothy_nd28   Nice! Look forward to the 2nd improved video.   Aug 27 2013, 08:08 PM
Mblizzard   Wow that was a great video after all you have been...   Aug 27 2013, 08:09 PM
malcolm2   I figured I'd use this to update those that he...   Sep 3 2013, 10:24 PM
Mblizzard   Looking pretty good! Drive it you earned it t...   Sep 4 2013, 12:20 AM
shoguneagle   Everyone involved deserves a great round of applau...   Sep 4 2013, 06:14 AM
Mblizzard   I will have to give it up for Clark, Tim, and all ...   Sep 4 2013, 09:54 AM
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