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> SCCA rules, rule out big bore motors
Randal
post Jul 26 2013, 09:59 AM
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At least in XP.

A fantasy of mine is to keep my car all Porsche and put in a 993 3.6. While the car would be +/-100 pounds heaver it would have over 300hp (with Varioram) and around 250lbs of torque. It would be a great hill climb car able to compete with the big bore modified cars.

OK, but then what do you do the rest of the year? XP rules would dictate ballasting up to 1997#. Are you kidding me?

So the only way to be competitive in XP is to convert to a Suby or shove in a twin turbo motor, just like everyone else.

Annoying.

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post Aug 3 2013, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(Randal @ Jul 26 2013, 08:59 AM) *

At least in XP.

A fantasy of mine is to keep my car all Porsche and put in a 993 3.6. While the car would be +/-100 pounds heaver it would have over 300hp (with Varioram) and around 250lbs of torque. It would be a great hill climb car able to compete with the big bore modified cars.

OK, but then what do you do the rest of the year? XP rules would dictate ballasting up to 1997#. Are you kidding me?

So the only way to be competitive in XP is to convert to a Suby or shove in a twin turbo motor, just like everyone else.

Annoying.

Honestly even with 3.6 you would be down on power to fastest cars. Kippermans tube frame car will be completely rebuilt by next season with big V8 Poor little 300 hp 914 wouldn't have a chance against that car. Even my Z will be making 425 hp soon. You have to go either V8 or blown to be top dog in hillclimb. Or go with water cooled 6 from GT3. No doubts your car would be very fast but suspect it wouldn't be as fast as high hp cars at some Hillclimbs. You'd be a fast SPO car for sure. I'm going to SPO next year would be fun to run against you in same class. With Avon race slicks, 2500 lb car and 100 more hp the Z should be pretty quick as long as I keep it on the road! Lol!

I'd not worry about SCCA classing. You do mostly local ax and you'd be plenty fast in E mod with e mod PAX. PCA you'd have TTOD car.

If there any doubts about hp being king of Hillclimbs just look at Rob Bs GT2 setting 2:11 in SSP at Hoopa. The car is a rocketship. Made z06 corvettes look slow!

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QUOTE(grantsfo @ Aug 3 2013, 12:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Randal @ Jul 26 2013, 08:59 AM) *

At least in XP.

A fantasy of mine is to keep my car all Porsche and put in a 993 3.6. While the car would be +/-100 pounds heaver it would have over 300hp (with Varioram) and around 250lbs of torque. It would be a great hill climb car able to compete with the big bore modified cars.

OK, but then what do you do the rest of the year? XP rules would dictate ballasting up to 1997#. Are you kidding me?

So the only way to be competitive in XP is to convert to a Suby or shove in a twin turbo motor, just like everyone else.

Annoying.

Honestly even with 3.6 you would be down on power to fastest cars. Kippermans tube frame car will be completely rebuilt by next season with big V8 Poor little 300 hp 914 wouldn't have a chance against that car. Even my Z will be making 425 hp soon. You have to go either V8 or blown to be top dog in hillclimb. Or go with water cooled 6 from GT3. No doubts your car would be very fast but suspect it wouldn't be as fast as high hp cars at some Hillclimbs. You'd be a fast SPO car for sure. I'm going to SPO next year would be fun to run against you in same class. With Avon race slicks, 2500 lb car and 100 more hp the Z should be pretty quick as long as I keep it on the road! Lol!

I'd not worry about SCCA classing. You do mostly local ax and you'd be plenty fast in E mod with e mod PAX. PCA you'd have TTOD car.

If there any doubts about hp being king of Hillclimbs just look at Rob Bs GT2 setting 2:11 in SSP at Hoopa. The car is a rocketship. Made z06 corvettes look slow!


Rob's car is a rocketship on a hill and it ought to be as it cost a bundle. Rob's car is fast and he's a good driver, but not fast enough that he didn't get taken out at a "local" event this year by a old 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

One way of winning is to have a bigger budget than the next guy, but it makes for expensive bragging rights. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)


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Randal   SCCA rules   Jul 26 2013, 09:59 AM
brant   The 911 conversion adds a bit over 150lbs from a 4...   Jul 26 2013, 11:53 AM
Randal   The 911 conversion adds a bit over 150lbs from a ...   Jul 26 2013, 12:11 PM
Woody   I have begun to source some parts to build a short...   Jul 26 2013, 12:16 PM
Randal   I have begun to source some parts to build a shor...   Jul 26 2013, 12:22 PM
brant   I have begun to source some parts to build a shor...   Jul 26 2013, 02:44 PM
Woody   I have begun to source some parts to build a sho...   Jul 26 2013, 06:16 PM
grantsfo   Could always run EM. Even with turbo you'd ha...   Jul 26 2013, 01:10 PM
Woody   I'm hoping to see 220+ hp and 175 ftlbs but th...   Jul 26 2013, 01:27 PM
r_towle   Twin turbo 3.6 Just saying   Jul 26 2013, 06:18 PM
brant   Street legal is going to be closer to 1950 -2000lb...   Jul 26 2013, 06:29 PM
Britain Smith   I was sub-1800 with a 2.7L 6-cylinder motor...and ...   Jul 26 2013, 11:23 PM
brant   Yes but not street legal. My car is a bit heavy b...   Jul 27 2013, 05:12 AM
J P Stein   High HP works only when you're OTG, whereas li...   Jul 27 2013, 07:08 AM
Randal   High HP works only when you're OTG, whereas l...   Jul 27 2013, 09:00 AM
SirAndy   I understand that people want to go faster, but wh...   Jul 28 2013, 06:29 PM
ConeDodger   I understand that people want to go faster, but w...   Jul 28 2013, 07:01 PM
r_towle   I understand that people want to go faster, but w...   Jul 28 2013, 07:38 PM
J P Stein   I understand that people want to go faster, but w...   Jul 29 2013, 06:51 AM
Randal   I understand that people want to go faster, but ...   Jul 29 2013, 08:14 AM
jhadler   I understand that people want to go faster, but w...   Jul 30 2013, 03:42 PM
J P Stein   I understand that people want to go faster, but ...   Jul 30 2013, 09:17 PM
jhadler   [quote name='jhadler' post='1902287' date='Jul 30...   Jul 30 2013, 09:22 PM
carr914   I'm hoping to see 220+ hp and 175 ftlbs but t...   Jul 28 2013, 09:56 PM
Randal   [quote name='Woody' post='1900277' date='Jul 26 2...   Jul 28 2013, 10:07 PM
Woody   [quote name='Woody' post='1900277' date='Jul 26 2...   Jul 29 2013, 06:48 AM
carr914   [quote name='Woody' post='1900277' date='Jul 26 ...   Jul 28 2013, 11:22 PM
J P Stein   It may be that the old bod is not up to building a...   Jul 31 2013, 04:51 AM
Randal   It may be that the old bod is not up to building ...   Jul 31 2013, 12:55 PM
jhadler   It may be that the old bod is not up to building...   Jul 31 2013, 02:01 PM
J P Stein   [quote name='Randal' post='1902593' date='Jul 31 ...   Jul 31 2013, 05:52 PM
Randal   [quote name='Randal' post='1902593' date='Jul 31...   Jul 31 2013, 10:32 PM
Andyrew   Is nitrous legal? Just curious about a 50 shot i...   Aug 1 2013, 02:04 AM
Woody   :blowup:   Aug 1 2013, 06:10 AM
jhadler   No Nitrous. It's considered an Oxygen bearing ...   Aug 1 2013, 10:52 AM
scott_in_nh   No Nitrous. It's considered an Oxygen bearing...   Aug 2 2013, 08:27 AM
Andyrew   No Nitrous. It's considered an Oxygen bearing...   Aug 2 2013, 11:06 AM
brant   in road racing at least... they wouldn't even...   Aug 1 2013, 12:34 PM
grantsfo   At least in XP. A fantasy of mine is to keep my ...   Aug 3 2013, 01:09 PM
Randal   At least in XP. A fantasy of mine is to keep my...   Aug 4 2013, 05:06 PM
grantsfo   Rob's car is a rocketship on a hill and it o...   Aug 5 2013, 07:35 AM
Randal   Rob's car is a rocketship on a hill and it ...   Aug 5 2013, 01:39 PM
Andyrew   Grant, How is your Z a 2500lb car???   Aug 4 2013, 10:42 AM
Woody   Grant, How is your Z a 2500lb car??? Its missing...   Aug 4 2013, 12:25 PM
grantsfo   Grant, How is your Z a 2500lb car??? Semi tube f...   Aug 4 2013, 11:03 PM
Andyrew   Grant, How is your Z a 2500lb car??? Semi tube ...   Aug 10 2013, 12:45 PM
grantsfo   Correct typo. You cant run wings in SPO/SPU   Aug 5 2013, 01:37 PM
brant   Britt would have to rebuild/regear   Aug 5 2013, 02:25 PM
jhadler   Britt would have to rebuild/regear Just swap ou...   Aug 5 2013, 04:44 PM
brant   Britt would have to rebuild/regear Just swap o...   Aug 5 2013, 04:54 PM


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