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> think of trading my 72 914 in for a newer Porsche Boxster
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post Jul 29 2013, 06:21 PM
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I know I'll get crucified for this but I am contemplating putting the 72 914 out to pasture and taking on a 1998-2002 Porsche Boxster. Sexy car!
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post Jul 29 2013, 06:27 PM
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Meet us in Durango for the RRC and we'll talk you out of it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 29 2013, 06:34 PM
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Your going to almost have as much headaches on that year boxster as an old 914. If it were ME doing that, I would go for a newer car so I wouldnt have any major maintenance worries and could put 40-50k miles on it without fear.
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post Jul 29 2013, 07:05 PM
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I would agree. I have both. A 2003 Boxster S and a 1975 1.8. The IMS alone on these years is a real issue. Porsche is settling a class action lawsuit right now. If that doesn't confirm the ims problem I don't know what else is need to make it a fact. The only way I could buy a Boxster was with a Porsche CPO warranty. Which is exactly what I would recommend you do. As they say with Porsches buy the best car you can afford. These cars a very expensive to maintain and for the cost of a new engine you can almost buy a good 914-6 at 25k. Which is what you must do when the ims fails with no warning or symptoms.

That being said, I love my Boxster. I drive it every day 15k per year. My annual cost tires and repair costs runs 3-5k. However it is really nice to have AC and heat. Did I mention I still have my Porsche grin :-). You will love the pull in second!!

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post Jul 29 2013, 07:09 PM
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James, I agree. I saw post after post about how the IMS problem wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be. I guarantee Porsche wouldn't issue a recall on 10 year old cars if there wasn't a lot of truth to the claims.
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post Jul 29 2013, 07:20 PM
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IMS?
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Any year worse than others?
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post Jul 29 2013, 07:31 PM
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found a site stating that the 2003 and newer models are more problematic. I am looking a the base model. Maybe this model would be less abused?
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post Jul 29 2013, 07:32 PM
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"I guarantee Porsche wouldn't issue a recall on 10 year old cars if there wasn't a lot of truth to the claims." My .02 cents. Over the years, Porsche has lost their way in producing a great product. The bean counter has taken over. Thus they have become the most profitable car mfg in the world. They only offer a recall. ..if they are forced too! There's another potential recall in the works regarding the coolant fitting on the 996 model years . Yes it also includes the 997 /991 too. CHECK NTSA website. ..it sort of reminds me of the Toyota settlement

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post Jul 29 2013, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(biosurfer1 @ Jul 29 2013, 05:09 PM) *

James, I agree. I saw post after post about how the IMS problem wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be. I guarantee Porsche wouldn't issue a recall on 10 year old cars if there wasn't a lot of truth to the claims.

Did they issue a recall? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Jul 29 2013, 07:38 PM
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Keep the 914 and by a SL500. Air, heat and your wife will love the ride. No back seat means you only carry one passenger.
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post Jul 29 2013, 07:41 PM
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okay. how about a Honda S2000?
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post Jul 29 2013, 07:57 PM
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Get an s, that's what I'm going to get. I'm keeping the 914 though.
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:01 PM
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Oof. May as well just get a Miata. Smarter bang for buck and similar man factor.
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(chad newton @ Jul 29 2013, 07:57 PM) *

Get an s, that's what I'm going to get. I'm keeping the 914 though.


I have a second 1976 914 project car, complete. That makes it easier for me to let the 72 go. I figure the Boxster S is a more abused model with the added horse power.
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(biosurfer1 @ Jul 29 2013, 05:09 PM) *

James, I agree. I saw post after post about how the IMS problem wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be. I guarantee Porsche wouldn't issue a recall on 10 year old cars if there wasn't a lot of truth to the claims.

Did they issue a recall? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


Yes they settled out of court.....with majority of the judgement going towards Porsche.
With the 996 on cars, theirs something like 6/8 coolant line that were 'glued' ...thus coming loose / separated while your driving. Other than possibly blowing up the motor, cars behind might run over the coolant and crash...PCA and other clubs will NOT allow your car on track unless this potential issue's been address......BUT their RACE cars all have welded coolant fittings...Porsche bean counters -way too go!
FYI
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(jdlmodelt @ Jul 29 2013, 06:41 PM) *

okay. how about a Honda S2000?


Since you live in Ski Country USA, I would look at a New Subaru WRX STI, 305 HP and four wheel drive.
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:32 PM
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I have not heard of a recall but I did receive legal papers to opt in or out of the class action settlement. The settlement doesn't really apply as cars that have been in service for ten years or more are for all practical purposes excluded from the settlement. My engine hasn't failed and I replaced my ims bearing with the LN version a couple of years ago. I just couldn't sleep at night with that ticking time bomb. I keep my oil changed and maintain it very aggressively. I have 93k and just drove it to San Diego two weeks ago. It sure is a nice high speed cruising car. The faster I drove the better my gas mileage was with the 6th gear.
I am debating what I am going to do as far as keeping the car. I am not sure a 100+k miles Boxster makes good economic sense with the cost of suspension and engine work in the not too distant future...

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post Jul 29 2013, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(396 @ Jul 29 2013, 08:24 PM) *

QUOTE(jdlmodelt @ Jul 29 2013, 06:41 PM) *

okay. how about a Honda S2000?


Since you live in Ski Country USA, I would look at a New Subaru WRX STI, 305 HP and four wheel drive.

yep, nice car as well. I'm enjoying the look of the Porsche Boxster.
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:35 PM
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I bought my 914 4 years ago as a 2nd car to my Mazda 3. Starting investing into the /6 conversion parts while some people told me to buy a Boxster instead. 4 months ago I sold my Mazda and bought a 2000 S while the 914 is on jackstands.

Sure the Boxster is faster, more powerful, more modern, A/C and all the goodies - but a couple weeks after driving it I took my 914 out for one last spin....it sure put a smile on my face despite the pathetic 70hp motor.

I will never get rid of my 914 despite whatever else I have. It's such a unique car you just can't replace that experience.

Up to 2000 model - it has dual row IMS. Less than 1% failure....drive it. 2001 and later...single row. Add in a couple grand for the IMS upgrade if you want peace of mind.
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(patssle @ Jul 29 2013, 08:35 PM) *

I bought my 914 4 years ago as a 2nd car to my Mazda 3. Starting investing into the /6 conversion parts while some people told me to buy a Boxster instead. 4 months ago I sold my Mazda and bought a 2000 S while the 914 is on jackstands.

Sure the Boxster is faster, more powerful, more modern, A/C and all the goodies - but a couple weeks after driving it I took my 914 out for one last spin....it sure put a smile on my face despite the pathetic 70hp motor.

I will never get rid of my 914 despite whatever else I have. It's such a unique car you just can't replace that experience.

Up to 2000 model - it has dual row IMS. Less than 1% failure....drive it. 2001 and later...single row. Add in a couple grand for the IMS upgrade if you want peace of mind.

so are you saying 2001 or older Porsche boxster?
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