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> I've been cuttin' some more, rear end is just about gone
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post Dec 9 2004, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Dec 8 2004, 10:33 PM)
Here's one tucked away in a hotrod... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

That looks like a Midget or Sprite. Nice installation!

Check out that single circuit master cylinder. Wonder how well that thing stops with those old brakes? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 9 2004, 12:31 PM
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1990 Engine Ford Taurus 3.0L;5SP;4DR SDN;SHO;1-90;411 LH0459 $500

Not a bad price for a SHO motor... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Dec 9 2004, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Dec 8 2004, 06:44 PM)
I've been doing a little research, what do you think of these options

1. GM Quad 4: DOHC, all aluminum (light wt.), 190 HP stock. Friend down the street said he had one in his street car and it ran very strong. I would think a few easy mods would get up to 225-240 HP easy.    

2. Chevy Vortex 4.3: Heavier than the Q4, cheap and parts everywhere, any one know the HP rating? Ebay has several low mile ones for less than $1000

Both would be avaible at a local yard, all the hop up parts are as close as the Summit website. I am not looking for 400 HP 'cause I'd need more tires and a new tranny.
200-250 HP in a 1400 pound car will be all the fun I need. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

Give me some feed back.

Paul

Paul,I'm putting a GM 3.1 with factory fuel injection in mine,it's a 1991 from a chevy corsica and makes 140HP. The boys over at 60degreev6.com have been really helpful on how to hot rod it.
I'm doing what is called a top end swap,installing a later model upper& lower intake, heads,bigger throttlebody and after market cam,ECM tune and headers. And they say that will get me in the 180-200 Hp range. We'll see.......and hey! our cars ARE antiques!!!!

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post Dec 9 2004, 03:14 PM
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Steve,
Very intresting...

Why did you go with a 3.1? Is it all aluminum?
What is your final price going to be?
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post Dec 9 2004, 03:22 PM
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Pretend I know nothing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

But if you use a "V" engine of any sorts, doesn't that put wieght up higher increasing lateral pull? Wouldn't the prime engine be of a flat design? Flat 4 or 6? Maybe it isn't that noticable? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Dec 9 2004, 03:53 PM
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subaru svx motor 3.3 liter 240 hp stock, have heard it can handle 300 hp easy with just a few mods. obd I fi is easy to convert handles spark and fuel probably wieghs 50 pounds more than a type IV not including rad. adapter plate is avalible from kennedy. awesome flat torque curve
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post Dec 9 2004, 08:25 PM
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Alright, here is another WAI (wild ass idea),

How about keeping it in the P-car family with a 944 Turbo?


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post Dec 9 2004, 08:26 PM
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Wouldn't this look cool!!!

At least it would say PORSCHE on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Dec 9 2004, 09:07 PM
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Paul,
I've thought about that one myself.
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(seanery @ Dec 9 2004, 08:07 PM)
Paul,
I've thought about that one myself.

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Big time. I had a 425hp 951 in Florida. That is an awesome engine. I even checked on some tranny options for that install, but it never went anywhere.

When I set up a track car, a 951 engine is on the short list.
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:37 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...7940458608&rd=1

They're right up the road in Jax.
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:39 PM
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post Dec 10 2004, 12:55 AM
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What about intercooler and radiator and such?

450hp is easy.. But not a whole bunch of power under 3k.... (drive 2 regularly....)

From what I understand, they Are pretty heavy ...Even for being aluminum...(big crank I hear..)



You got that much money to spend????

Ouch... Heck why not..

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post Dec 10 2004, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Dec 9 2004, 10:55 PM)
You got that much money to spend????


No I don't but a guy can dream. If I run into a guy that knows of a 944t that has an engine for sale for $200 I'll take it. Until that happens I got enough parts to build a +/- 175 HP Type IV. So I'll be doing that.

Its a power vs. weight vs. cost vs. constructablity issue. Once I get the semi-tube frame and body completed I want to be able to drive it. Not spend my time trying to get some wild ass engine swap to work.

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post Dec 10 2004, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Dec 9 2004, 01:14 PM)
Steve,
Very intresting...

Why did you go with a 3.1? Is it all aluminum?
What is your final price going to be?

Paul,here is what Ihave so far.....
1.$400.00 for the doner car (complete with engine harness and ECM)
2. $455 to KEP for adapter & flywheel machining
3.$300.00 for top end swap (heads,upper & lower intakes,timing cover,valve covers)
4.$250.00 for after market cam
Then I will need to freshen up the engine and build some headers and add exhaust. And what ever it will cost to do the heads.
There is a guy an hour from me that said he could re-burn my chip also.
I'm probably leaving some things out, but you get the idea. Unfortunatlly the block is iron and the heads and intake setup are aluminum. KEP claims it weighs 85lbs more than the flat four.
Here are a couple of pics of the engine and trans axle.........

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post Dec 10 2004, 12:01 PM
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post Dec 10 2004, 02:51 PM
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Paul,I forgot to answer your first question......the engine was readly availible to me,my son had the car, it had been hit in the left front so it was easy. I have always liked this engine it make good smooth power with the factory injection always starts,idles smoothly,parts are cheap and it can be hopped up easily.
And it is the same length as the 914-4.

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post Dec 10 2004, 06:33 PM
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My local mechanic has two Maserati Bi Turbo cars for sale. One is a parts car, but both engines run.

260HP twin turbo, twin intercolers, in a very small package.

Wonder if they would fit?
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