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> Condenser and timing, condenser blocking dizzy rotation
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post Aug 5 2013, 08:38 PM
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Anybody ever had an issue where the condenser is in the way of rotating the dizzy for timing?
I changed out the coil, condenser, plugs, wires, etc. on my 76. When I went to set the timing, the condenser was positioned such that when rotating the dizzy, the condenser would hit the nearby metal, and not allow the dizzy to rotate far enough.
I grabbed the old condenser and noticed that the PO had drilled a new hole through the attaching plate to allow the condenser to be mounted higher (thereby eliminating this issue).
I'm wondering if the dizzy shaft is off a couple of teeth.
I also can't seem to locate the timing marks on the fan (don't know if this is related).
Any other ideas?
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post Aug 5 2013, 08:46 PM
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Yes. Drive could be off. Where is the # 1 plug wire at if twelve o'clock is the front of the Car? Carb or fi?
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post Aug 5 2013, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Aug 5 2013, 06:46 PM) *

Yes. Drive could be off. Where is the # 1 plug wire at if twelve o'clock is the front of the Car? Carb or fi?


#1 plug on dizzy is at 10:30.
Car is stock FI
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post Aug 5 2013, 08:55 PM
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Here's one idea, get rid of the condenser and get one of these

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post Aug 5 2013, 08:59 PM
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That sounds about right. Where is the condenser mounted?
It should be on the aft mount screw on the vacuum can
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post Aug 5 2013, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Aug 5 2013, 06:59 PM) *

That sounds about right. Where is the condenser mounted?
It should be on the aft mount screw on the vacuum can


It is attached to the dizzy at the 1:30 position.
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post Aug 5 2013, 09:40 PM
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you may have gotten the wrong condenser for a 1.8 versus the 2.0 liter.
The mounting is backwards for one of them...cant recall which one.

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QUOTE(r_towle @ Aug 5 2013, 07:40 PM) *

you may have gotten the wrong condenser for a 1.8 versus the 2.0 liter.
The mounting is backwards for one of them...cant recall which one.

Rich


Didn't realize there was a difference. This one came as a part of the super ignition kit for a 76 from PP. The part number matches their online spec for a 2.0 instead (not 1.8). It is the 311-905-295C-14
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post Aug 5 2013, 10:02 PM
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still wrong...

Cap'n Crusty knows the exact bosch number.

or call John at GPR for the right part.

There are more than a few condensors. all work, but not all fit correctly.

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post Aug 6 2013, 07:43 AM
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Okay, that explains it....I got points and condenser from O'Reilly's. The condenser wire won't stretch to the rear vacuum advance screw! Mount it to the front screw and the dizzy won't rotate! Arrgh! I think I mounted it under the cap clip finally, just anywhere I could, but scratching my head and wondering.

(Runs fine, got 37 mpg on last week's 2000 mile shakedown cruise. I'll give a rundown in a couple of days.)

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post Aug 6 2013, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(eyesright @ Aug 6 2013, 06:43 AM) *

Okay, that explains it....I got points and condenser from O'Reilly's. The condenser wire won't stretch to the rear vacuum advance screw! Mount it to the front screw and the dizzy won't rotate! Arrgh! I think I mounted it under the cap clip finally, just anywhere I could, but scratching my head and wondering.

(Runs fine, got 37 mpg on last week's 2000 mile shakedown cruise. I'll give a rundown in a couple of days.)

Nice to tune in to someplace where you can find answers to life's puzzles.


"O'Reillys"? For sure you got junk parts that don't fit. A 914 owner has NO business being in a chain auto parts (I use that descriptor loosely) store. They have NOTHING, except maybe for motor oil, that is right for your car. Nothing! They sell cheap crap to a clientelle that equates value with low price.

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post Aug 6 2013, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Aug 6 2013, 07:32 AM) *

QUOTE(eyesright @ Aug 6 2013, 06:43 AM) *

Okay, that explains it....I got points and condenser from O'Reilly's. The condenser wire won't stretch to the rear vacuum advance screw! Mount it to the front screw and the dizzy won't rotate! Arrgh! I think I mounted it under the cap clip finally, just anywhere I could, but scratching my head and wondering.

(Runs fine, got 37 mpg on last week's 2000 mile shakedown cruise. I'll give a rundown in a couple of days.)

Nice to tune in to someplace where you can find answers to life's puzzles.


"O'Reillys"? For sure you got junk parts that don't fit. A 914 owner has NO business being in a chain auto parts (I use that descriptor loosely) store. They have NOTHING, except maybe for motor oil, that is right for your car. Nothing! They sell cheap crap to a clientelle that equates value with low price.

The Cap'n



So what is the correct part number since the one from PP apparently doesn't fit properly?
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post Aug 6 2013, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(--axel-- @ Aug 5 2013, 08:59 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Aug 5 2013, 07:40 PM) *

you may have gotten the wrong condenser for a 1.8 versus the 2.0 liter.
The mounting is backwards for one of them...cant recall which one.

Rich


Didn't realize there was a difference. This one came as a part of the super ignition kit for a 76 from PP. The part number matches their online spec for a 2.0 instead (not 1.8). It is the 311-905-295C-14


....That is the # for 1.7 & 2.0 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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QUOTE(Drums66 @ Aug 6 2013, 10:48 AM) *

QUOTE(--axel-- @ Aug 5 2013, 08:59 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Aug 5 2013, 07:40 PM) *

you may have gotten the wrong condenser for a 1.8 versus the 2.0 liter.
The mounting is backwards for one of them...cant recall which one.

Rich


Didn't realize there was a difference. This one came as a part of the super ignition kit for a 76 from PP. The part number matches their online spec for a 2.0 instead (not 1.8). It is the 311-905-295C-14


....That is the # for 1.7 & 2.0 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)


So back to the original question, why does it block the dizzy/can from turning so I can set the timing if it is the correct condenser?
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post Aug 6 2013, 12:54 PM
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You got the wrong part, with a number that has superseded the old part number.btdt.


Call
John at GPR, the advertisement at the top left of this screen.
He will have one shipped out to you that will fit.

It will take less time than typing.
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post Aug 7 2013, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Aug 6 2013, 10:32 AM) *

"O'Reillys"? For sure you got junk parts that don't fit. A 914 owner has NO business being in a chain auto parts (I use that descriptor loosely) store. They have NOTHING, except maybe for motor oil, that is right for your car. Nothing! They sell cheap crap to a clientelle that equates value with low price.

The Cap'n

Oh please.... What a bunch of hyperboli.

There are many useful things available from the FLAPs for our cars.
Here are just a few:
- butyl tape for repairing rear window seal
- tripple square for CV joints.
- vacuum/fuel lines
- Hose clamps (and I'm not talking about the cheap worm gear type)
- stainless brake tubing for DIY tunnel fuel line replacement
- brake speed bleeder screws
- wiper blades
- Battery
- brake resevoir cap


Even HomeDepot has a few items that can be used on our cars
like a chrome plug for the tow hole in the rear bumber
or a black corrogated tubing that is really close the original drain tubing.

--- bill
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post Aug 7 2013, 11:15 AM
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That's funny because I got the "right" throttle cable (a Gemo) from Carquest while the one from Pelican was wrong.

The cable from Pelican was assembled backwards with the threaded end on the engine side instead of the pedal end.

Stu
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