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> CptTripps' Restoration 2 - The Grey Matter Build, Back in Doug’s garage
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post Jan 4 2017, 03:05 AM
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How much boost are you planning to run? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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post Jan 4 2017, 06:45 AM
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QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Jan 4 2017, 04:05 AM) *

How much boost are you planning to run? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


Doug's turbo is good to about 17psi, same as what I am running on the Porsti. Not a huge amount but enough to cause problems. Once he gets a proper turbo that is up to what his engine is cable of...much more.

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post Jan 4 2017, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(Amenson @ Jan 4 2017, 05:45 AM) *

QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Jan 4 2017, 04:05 AM) *

How much boost are you planning to run? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


Doug's turbo is good to about 17psi, same as what I am running on the Porsti. Not a huge amount but enough to cause problems. Once he gets a proper turbo that is up to what his engine is cable of...much more.

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Saw your car move along quite well at Octeenerfest... looked like fun. Your passenger seat was occupied so I got to ride with Wes - 450hp smallblock was a great ride both days!
I'm looking at all the n/a options for extra power on my EG33 build. This build and your posts have been incorporated into my project as well - Thanks!
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post Jan 4 2017, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(Amenson @ Jan 3 2017, 05:33 PM) *

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Maybe a rubber isolation coupling between the IC & TB (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


Ya, sure...why not.
I would only take about 7 minutes to run the intercooler and throttle body through the the bandsaw to hack off the v-band clamp that I spent all day installing and replace it with leak prone rubber/silicone coupling. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

Sarcasm aside, this is an upgrade that I added to the project on my own time because I did not want Doug to have to deal with the frustration of blowing IC piping apart in the middle of an awesome high boost maneuver. Nobody should have to ever experience that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)

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I can understand that and it looks very nice. My concern would be cracks in the aluminum induced by the 4 cylinder's vibration. Maybe the Suby's 4 produces very little vibration. Just speaking from A/C experience. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jan 4 2017, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Jan 4 2017, 10:52 AM) *


I can understand that and it looks very nice. My concern would be cracks in the aluminum induced by the 4 cylinder's vibration. Maybe the Suby's 4 produces very little vibration. Just speaking from A/C experience. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


From my experience with persistent failure of the IC mount on the Porsti, the engine vibrates more than enough to break stuff! You can find the details and the solution in my build thread.

If you have some relevant experiences and want to share the details and how you solved the problems, it would be great to learn from them.

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post Jan 4 2017, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Amenson @ Jan 4 2017, 07:45 AM) *

Once he gets a proper turbo that is up to what his engine is cable of...much more.


That sounds like a bit of foresight! I imagine I'll upgrade the turbo down the line, but it won't be for a while.
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QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Jan 4 2017, 08:34 AM) *

Saw your car move along quite well at Octeenerfest... looked like fun. Your passenger seat was occupied so I got to ride with Wes - 450hp smallblock was a great ride both days!
I'm looking at all the n/a options for extra power on my EG33 build. This build and your posts have been incorporated into my project as well - Thanks!


EG33 NA
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275HP maybe a bit more.

No replacement for adding positive pressure, very nice turbo will easily get you to 450HP on an EG33, and if you want to to go higher than that, well it can be done, how many $$$$$$ do you want to bring to the fight.

As usual Scott doing a great job on the build, the V-bands are the way to go. Keep on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

Doug, yes you will get used to the power (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Jan 8 2017, 06:27 PM
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As promised...new engine cart. In total it took 14 component not including casters and fasteners.

Square tubing recycled from my nieghbors fence and castors from the cart that my C10 came on.
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Threaded rod, bar stock and my bender. I coated the pads in liquid rubber to minimize scratching.
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I welded bushings into the square tube for each of the adjustable pads.
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Engine came out so easily that I forgot to take pictures! I removed the wheels and lowered the car until the drivetrain was on the cart, adjusted the pads and then removed the four mounts and lifted the body above the engine.
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Perfect fit.
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Now I can finish the IC install.
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Also made a new mount for the air tools.
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post Jan 9 2017, 08:15 AM
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That's a bad-ass cart you've got there sir!

The IC install looks perfect. There's a lot going on in that little space, but you've made the most of it for sure. Definitely way better than anything I would have hobbled together.

I need to make some time to get down there to help out soon. Let's connect and see what we can come up with.
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post Jan 15 2017, 08:44 AM
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So much easier to work on the engine on the cart. Lead to a super productive day yesterday.

I made more room of the IC tube to the turbo by modifying the dip stick, removing some unneeded material from the intake manifold and remade the first tube out of the IC. It now clears the coolant elbow for removal and does not touch anything on the way under the manifold!!

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I used CAD (cardboard aided design) to figure out the parts for the IC mount.
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Many hours later.
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It fits!
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Nobody will ever see this when the engine is in the car so I have to show off some details.
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So many angles.
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Enough internets, time to get back in the garage and work on the IC plumbing.
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post Jan 16 2017, 12:57 PM
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No real progress to show from Sunday. Wife wanted to try out the Sunday brunch special, Chicken and Waffles, at one of the local microbrewerys killing half of the day. The afternoon was spent cleaning up the shop from Saturday and considering how to run the IC plumbing under the manifold with the absolute minimum bends.

I did take my normal tour of some of the great build threads on the forum to see if there were any new ideas I could steal and ran into Bob's old blue SVX powered car. He used a really nice coolant expansion tank but I can not figure out what it came from. Any ideas?

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post Jan 17 2017, 09:12 AM
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It's from a Volvo. 700/900 series.

Volvo Expansion Tank

That's a good one if you have the room horizontally. No weird mounting tabs, etc.
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Looking good!
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Jan 17 2017, 10:12 AM) *

It's from a Volvo. 700/900 series.

Volvo Expansion Tank

That's a good one if you have the room horizontally. No weird mounting tabs, etc.


Thanks for the info.
I was not expecting to see the outlet on the bottom, looks like it is intended to run pressurized. Not exactly what I was looking for but, I also reached out to Bob for the info and he has one that he is willing to part with so maybe I will play with it a bit on another project.

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Today was the day to finally route the IC feed under the intake manifold.

After a few hours fitting and tweaking it was time to tack! The green tape is some heat resistant tape that does not leave a residue even after it gets a bit melty. It will eventually char but so much better than anything I have used previously.

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The shape does not make sense until...

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...it is in place where it fits perfectly.

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I did not have a chance to finish the last section to the turbo or shape the IC entry so that will have to wait until next time.

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...it is in place where it fits perfectly.

That looks great Scott! What kind of tape is that? It almost looks [and you describe it] like Kapton, except in the wrong color.
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post Feb 22 2017, 08:26 AM
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Gang-

I've had a drastic change in my personal circumstances that is forcing me to sell this car. I've tried 10 different ways to hang on to it, but it's not going to happen.

I'm completely gutted right now.

The car is listed here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=305265

Please email me directly with any questions.
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QUOTE(jd74914 @ Feb 20 2017, 08:47 AM) *

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...it is in place where it fits perfectly.

That looks great Scott! What kind of tape is that? It almost looks [and you describe it] like Kapton, except in the wrong color.

This is the Tape. Really a life changer for making this kind of stuff.

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Well, the car officially has a new home. Sad to see it go, but happy that the project will get finished.

I'll change the name of the thread once the new owner tells me how he wants it named. Scott is still going to be working on the car for a few more months, so you'll see him chiming in here too.

I can't wait to watch the progress as it unfolds.

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Life goes on... you probably feel the weight gone already. Knowing it went to a good home has got to be satisfying on some level - hell, you'll probably even get to drive it once! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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