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> #770 (912E) Project thread *Tangerine Cooling System installed!)
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post Aug 21 2013, 08:44 PM
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I'm restoring a 912E, total gut & rebuild. New to this forum, been on the 912 board and several others for a while. I've never worked on an air cooled car engine before, or VW/Porsche of any type, so this has been a real learning process. Been lurking here for a while, figured it was time to post. I've been on 912BBS since 2011, for those interested, this link goes back to day 1. http://www.912bbs.org/vb/showthread.php?43391-770-Update
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post Nov 19 2013, 08:42 PM
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Since you changed your title, I guess my "WEcome" comment doesn't work anymore now it's just welcome.

I was looking at a restored 912 this summer at the XXX event in Seattle. Guy wanted $18,000 or something close to that. I thought it was a steal at that price. Watch out how much you spend if you're thinking of selling the car any time soon.
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QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Nov 19 2013, 09:42 PM) *

Since you changed your title, I guess my "WEcome" comment doesn't work anymore now it's just welcome.

I was looking at a restored 912 this summer at the XXX event in Seattle. Guy wanted $18,000 or something close to that. I thought it was a steal at that price. Watch out how much you spend if you're thinking of selling the car any time soon.


NOt SUre WHat you mean about the welcome ;-)

Yeah, I am very aware of the cost of this have been bargain hunting for parts, buying slowly over the last 2 years. Also watching for sales & great prices, recently scored new zimmerman front vented rotors for $55 a piece and rear vented rotors for $27. Crazy good deal. The downside is I am a parts whore and my wife is getting mad as boxes arrive daily ;-)

The entry price was virtually nothing, and paint will be the real killer, likely more than the full mechanical restore. I don't plan to sell the car, I have a bad habit of keeping things when I like them. After all the BS&T put into the car I'll be driving it for quite a while. My goal is a 3 season driver not a garage queen. I'm also doing 99% of the work myself with the exception of some machine work, balancing and the paint/body work. I did strip the car down to bare metal then acid etch and zinc coat. Will sit over the winter. In the spring I will redo the acid etching and zinc coating and prime with a 2 part epoxy primer, then send to a body shop for bodywork and paint. That is the BIG $$$ still looking for the right shop/person.

I am basically doing a complete gut & rebuild, salvaging what I can (which is a lot) and upgrading where I am replacing. i.e. Most of the work is refreshing, but some is total replacement.

- new 96MM pistons & cyls
- performance cam for carbs with solid lifters & swivel head adjusters
- Thermo reactors replaces with bursch bypass pipes
- Heads rebuilt and improved by Len Hoffman
- 911 style rotors & calipers & M/C
- 911 Turbo tierod and rack spacer kit
- Upgraded gauges - adding 911 dual
- Interior door panels and center console from 86 SC
- heater modifications and addition of fresh air fan circuit in place of clock & fuel gauge.

I'm having fun and have made some great connections, two of them being Jorge from European motorworks, and Len from Hoffman. Both of these guys are masters and very helpful, professional and have been great to work with. HIGHLY recommend either of them.

I've been wrenching on my own stuff since I was in 8th grade, and have rebuilt/restored half a dozen cars and motorcycles, but this is my first Porsche/VW other than a short stint with a GTI back in the early 80's which ended horribly in an Audi...... So I am learning as I go, and appreciate all the insight and help. I've asked a million dumb questions and will ask more.

Bottom line is if I spend $7500 on paint, I will be under $17000 for the total rebuild, that is everything including new tires, stereo, 100% complete. Plus I have a bunch of stuff to sell from this and other projects I have gathered piles of parts. I'm talking to one forum member about a few parts right now once we settle that I will offer the balance to the forums.
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Steve Pratel   #770 (912E) Project thread *Tangerine Cooling System installed!)   Aug 21 2013, 08:44 PM
kg6dxn   :wttc:   Aug 21 2013, 08:48 PM
76-914   :wttc:   Aug 21 2013, 09:09 PM
PanelBilly   WElcome.   Aug 21 2013, 09:10 PM
JawjaPorsche   We need pictures! :wttc:   Aug 22 2013, 02:09 AM
aharder   :wttc:   Aug 22 2013, 06:40 AM
Drums66   ....WELCOME...man!   Aug 22 2013, 10:29 AM
Joe Sharp   :wttc: :ttiwwp:   Aug 22 2013, 10:42 AM
gunny   :wttc:   Aug 22 2013, 11:12 AM
krazykonrad   :wttc:   Aug 22 2013, 06:12 PM
green914   :wttc:   Aug 22 2013, 06:31 PM
Steve Pratel   OK, here is a quick journey, focus mainly on the m...   Aug 22 2013, 06:36 PM
Steve Pratel   more of car overall   Aug 22 2013, 06:40 PM
Steve Pratel   As is evident the car is basically solid, just fil...   Aug 22 2013, 06:46 PM
Steve Pratel   Here is how the floor and interior look today. I s...   Aug 22 2013, 06:50 PM
Steve Pratel   Engine Pics I never took a pic of whta the engine ...   Aug 22 2013, 07:01 PM
Steve Pratel   drop & dissasemble   Aug 22 2013, 07:04 PM
Steve Pratel   Overall the internals of the engine were in good s...   Aug 22 2013, 07:42 PM
Steve Pratel   very little scuffing shows the car was lightly use...   Aug 22 2013, 07:46 PM
Steve Pratel   cases split very easily, though I was surprised at...   Aug 22 2013, 07:53 PM
Socalandy   :wttc:   Aug 22 2013, 07:54 PM
dale73914   Why someone would leaave this to rot is beyond me....   Aug 22 2013, 10:39 PM
SirAndy   Why someone would leaave this to rot is beyond me....   Aug 23 2013, 10:46 AM
Steve Pratel   Why someone would leaave this to rot is beyond me...   Aug 23 2013, 12:17 PM
anderssj   Why someone would leave this to rot is beyond me...   Nov 20 2013, 06:31 PM
Steve Pratel   Hi Steve, Very nice project! Wow, lots of ...   Nov 21 2013, 09:48 AM
stugray   I never realized that the 912s had 4 cyls in them....   Aug 23 2013, 12:37 PM
Jgilliam914   I never realized that the 912s had 4 cyls in them...   Aug 23 2013, 01:08 PM
poorsche914   The '76 912E had the same 2.0 as our 914s but ...   Aug 23 2013, 01:15 PM
Steve Pratel   I never realized that the 912s had 4 cyls in them...   Aug 26 2013, 10:44 AM
Jgilliam914   To Steve :wttc: you will have a blast working on ...   Aug 23 2013, 01:12 PM
stugray   So do the 912E owners get "looked down upon...   Aug 23 2013, 05:31 PM
injunmort   not to be a douche but butdo you guys care about m...   Aug 23 2013, 08:03 PM
Mikey914   not to be a douche but butdo you guys care about ...   Aug 23 2013, 10:00 PM
speed metal army   not to be a douche but butdo you guys care about ...   Aug 23 2013, 11:30 PM
Jonathan Livesay   not to be a douche but butdo you guys care about ...   Aug 29 2013, 05:09 PM
Joe Sharp   not to be a douche but butdo you guys care about ...   Nov 14 2013, 11:35 AM
Mikey914   This is what it will look like when it's done-...   Aug 23 2013, 09:55 PM
euro911   Cool. It would be a 2056 with those P/Cs :) Wha...   Aug 23 2013, 11:42 PM
euro911   2.0L T4 with L-jet FI   Aug 26 2013, 11:27 AM
Dr Evil   Not sure if a lot of people already mentioned this...   Aug 26 2013, 07:59 PM
euro911   :stooges:   Aug 26 2013, 11:50 PM
Nine_14   Looks like the previous owner was not an Porsche e...   Aug 27 2013, 10:30 AM
Steve Pratel   Thanks for the welcome guys, I will definitely be ...   Aug 29 2013, 04:55 PM
euro911   Thanks for the welcome guys, I will definitely be ...   Aug 29 2013, 07:13 PM
Steve Pratel   Thanks for the welcome guys, I will definitely be...   Sep 3 2013, 08:58 PM
euro911   Another neat trick is to drill a 1/2" hole in...   Sep 5 2013, 04:41 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Another neat trick is to drill a 1/2" hole i...   Nov 30 2013, 08:32 PM
Steve Pratel   Am looking at a couple fuel pumps for my build. I...   Nov 11 2013, 07:05 PM
SirAndy   http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetail...rodu...   Nov 11 2013, 08:08 PM
euro911   Am looking at a couple fuel pumps for my build. I...   Nov 11 2013, 10:20 PM
Kirmizi   Rotary pumps, like the one from CB Performance, ar...   Nov 11 2013, 09:39 PM
StratPlayer   Clean off the fan with some brake cleaner, if you...   Nov 12 2013, 10:30 AM
Steve Pratel   Thanks all, I decided on the CB rotary pump. I ju...   Nov 14 2013, 07:17 AM
Jeffs9146   Thanks all, I decided on the CB rotary pump, and ...   Nov 14 2013, 11:12 AM
Steve Pratel   thanks! Thanks all, I decided on the CB r...   Nov 14 2013, 12:33 PM
euro911   Thanks all, I decided on the CB rotary pump, and ...   Nov 14 2013, 01:15 PM
Joe Sharp   So I'm cooking today to get ready for dinner t...   Nov 14 2013, 12:42 PM
Steve Pratel   And the fan is finished being blasted and painted....   Nov 19 2013, 07:20 PM
euro911   Nice. I can already tell how the rest of the motor...   Nov 19 2013, 08:14 PM
PanelBilly   Since you changed your title, I guess my "WEc...   Nov 19 2013, 08:42 PM
Steve Pratel   Since you changed your title, I guess my "WE...   Nov 20 2013, 08:03 AM
FourBlades   Great project! Seems like you have a good pl...   Nov 20 2013, 09:19 AM
Al Meredith   Steve, I have had 3 912Es , now own #265. I built ...   Nov 20 2013, 08:21 PM
Steve Pratel   This is what I am hoping for, not looking to brack...   Nov 21 2013, 09:56 AM
gothspeed   I would love a 912E .... except they still have to...   Nov 20 2013, 09:28 PM
Steve Pratel   I never even heard of one untill I found this car,...   Nov 21 2013, 10:02 AM
gothspeed   I never even heard of one untill I found this car...   Nov 21 2013, 12:54 PM
type47   ... and the reality that I will have a motor with...   Jan 26 2014, 05:10 PM
Steve Pratel   ... and the reality that I will have a motor wit...   Jan 26 2014, 05:30 PM
euro911   Get a '74 or a '75 911 and drop a T4 in it...   Nov 20 2013, 11:15 PM
oldschool   Get a '74 or a '75 911 and drop a T4 in i...   Dec 1 2013, 09:59 PM
gothspeed   Get a '74 or a '75 911 and drop a T4 in i...   Dec 5 2013, 12:00 AM
Steve Pratel   SWEET! Just picked these up off ebay. NOS ne...   Nov 21 2013, 09:47 AM
Dave_Darling   There were, I believe, 2100 of the 912E made. Som...   Nov 21 2013, 10:07 AM
euro911   There was legislation introduced to increase it to...   Nov 21 2013, 01:00 PM
gothspeed   There was legislation introduced to increase it t...   Nov 21 2013, 04:39 PM
Mikey914   There was legislation introduced to increase it t...   Nov 30 2013, 07:45 PM
euro911   Yeah, they need to keep up with the times and move...   Nov 21 2013, 05:34 PM
Steve Pratel   Some progress, I jacked the car up and put on stan...   Nov 30 2013, 07:21 PM
Steve Pratel   and the rear   Nov 30 2013, 07:23 PM
Steve Pratel   ..The pile of stuff. Will be dumping the rotors, a...   Nov 30 2013, 07:25 PM
Steve Pratel   passenger front end parts I removed today.   Nov 30 2013, 07:45 PM
euro911   Looks like you've been a busy boy. If the car...   Nov 30 2013, 07:56 PM
euro911   Topside, TDC for timing with an adjustable timing ...   Nov 30 2013, 09:02 PM
Steve Pratel   Gents, diddnt want to start a new thread, and tryi...   Dec 4 2013, 08:41 PM
Jake Raby   For adequate performance for 5,500 RPM or below th...   Dec 4 2013, 08:59 PM
Steve Pratel   OK, things have been hectic the last week, back to...   Dec 11 2013, 07:31 AM
Steve Pratel   I've been busy on #770, here is a link to the ...   Jan 26 2014, 04:30 PM
type47   well, I know Jake does magic with typeIV motors bu...   Jan 26 2014, 06:24 PM
Steve Pratel   well, I know Jake does magic with typeIV motors b...   Jan 26 2014, 07:14 PM
Steve Pratel   R&R'd the steering rack and front cross me...   Feb 1 2014, 05:41 PM
barefoot   R&R'd the steering rack and front cross m...   Feb 10 2014, 07:53 AM
Steve Pratel   Snow day today, so I figured I'd try my electr...   Feb 13 2014, 08:42 PM
Jake Raby   Consider the sprung weight difference of the two e...   Feb 1 2014, 07:23 PM
Steve Pratel   A few more projects completed. Paint is PJ1/VHT en...   Feb 3 2014, 09:29 PM
Steve Pratel   Decided to go silver with the shift lever. Took le...   Feb 3 2014, 09:34 PM
euro911   Excellent :)   Feb 3 2014, 09:37 PM
Steve Pratel   Getting psyched, just ordered the rebel racing bus...   Feb 5 2014, 04:16 PM
Steve Pratel   OK, I'm not above begging............... Anyo...   Feb 9 2014, 10:56 AM
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