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Missed shifts, Broken parts? |
Razorbobsr |
Sep 4 2013, 06:11 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 6-June 10 From: Terre Haute Ind Member No.: 11,813 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
This past weekend the wife and I started a 400 mile trip to see her folks, half way there we stopped for potty time. When we departed my tranny shifting had become very hit and mostly miss, I fought this prob for the next 200 miles. AM inspection finds a brass bushing at the tranny end had started breaking up allowing ALOT of slop to confuse the driver[me] as to what gear I was in, and mostly not in! What is this bushing called? Best way to replace? I have fair skills, 40 by 40 shop, time, books. PS. The car ran very well over the 400 miles, and is ' For Sale' Bob Arnett
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Woody |
Sep 4 2013, 06:16 AM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Is the bushing outside the trans? Maybe you can post a picture? Replacing bushings is not a big deal. Do a search, there are plenty of topics on it.
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Bartlett 914 |
Sep 4 2013, 07:49 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The bushing at the shift console is normally a plastic one. Brass is after market. Installation should be a tight fit. It is pressed in place. If you heat it in boiling water and installing while hot, it goes pretty fast. Unfortunately, the opening in the console gets worn when the old bushing wiggles around. The new one may fit loose. Dont forget to order new cone screws (2)
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Razorbobsr |
Sep 5 2013, 04:56 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 6-June 10 From: Terre Haute Ind Member No.: 11,813 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Razorbobsr |
Sep 5 2013, 04:59 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 6-June 10 From: Terre Haute Ind Member No.: 11,813 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The bushing at the shift console is normally a plastic one. Brass is after market. Installation should be a tight fit. It is pressed in place. If you heat it in boiling water and installing while hot, it goes pretty fast. Unfortunately, the opening in the console gets worn when the old bushing wiggles around. The new one may fit loose. Dont forget to order new cone screws (2) Cone screws? No consol, this is at the end of the long shift rod just before it turns to shift knuckle. Bob |
jimkelly |
Sep 5 2013, 05:42 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
you have a
tail shift trans or side shift trans i'm assuming TS thus you don't have this console? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c767504.r4.cf2.rackcdn.com-2460-1378381321.1.gif) |
jimkelly |
Sep 5 2013, 05:43 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
and you do have this?
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-2460-1378381406.1.jpg) |
Bartlett 914 |
Sep 5 2013, 07:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The bushing at the shift console is normally a plastic one. Brass is after market. Installation should be a tight fit. It is pressed in place. If you heat it in boiling water and installing while hot, it goes pretty fast. Unfortunately, the opening in the console gets worn when the old bushing wiggles around. The new one may fit loose. Dont forget to order new cone screws (2) Cone screws? No console, this is at the end of the long shift rod just before it turns to shift knuckle. Bob Here is a shift console for a side shift transmission. The cone screws are the set screws that are at each end of the shift rod. Fully remove them. Do not just loosen them to remove the shift rod. When you see them, they are pointed to a cone. The bushing in question is seen on the left. This one is an after market one. It is using a snap ring. I may have made that one. Normally they are just plastic with fingers that snap the bushing in place. Attached image(s) |
Dr Evil |
Sep 5 2013, 02:15 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,000 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If it was modified with a brass bushing, you may just need to re-JB weld the bushing back in. People widen the hole for this sometimes and a plastic bushing will not fit.
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bandjoey |
Sep 5 2013, 02:31 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Emergency repair for next time - garden hose bushing. Insert through housing and zip tie on both sides to the shift bar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Nice Car. Don't sell- you'll regret it later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Razorbobsr |
Sep 6 2013, 06:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 6-June 10 From: Terre Haute Ind Member No.: 11,813 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
you have a tail shift trans or side shift trans i'm assuming TS thus you don't have this console? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c767504.r4.cf2.rackcdn.com-2460-1378381321.1.gif) Tale shift tranny. Bob |
Razorbobsr |
Sep 6 2013, 06:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 6-June 10 From: Terre Haute Ind Member No.: 11,813 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Razorbobsr |
Sep 6 2013, 06:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 6-June 10 From: Terre Haute Ind Member No.: 11,813 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The bushing at the shift console is normally a plastic one. Brass is after market. Installation should be a tight fit. It is pressed in place. If you heat it in boiling water and installing while hot, it goes pretty fast. Unfortunately, the opening in the console gets worn when the old bushing wiggles around. The new one may fit loose. Dont forget to order new cone screws (2) Cone screws? No console, this is at the end of the long shift rod just before it turns to shift knuckle. Bob Here is a shift console for a side shift transmission. The cone screws are the set screws that are at each end of the shift rod. Fully remove them. Do not just loosen them to remove the shift rod. When you see them, they are pointed to a cone. The bushing in question is seen on the left. This one is an after market one. It is using a snap ring. I may have made that one. Normally they are just plastic with fingers that snap the bushing in place. Whats the round org thing in your pic? Bob |
Bartlett 914 |
Sep 6 2013, 11:09 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The bushing at the shift console is normally a plastic one. Brass is after market. Installation should be a tight fit. It is pressed in place. If you heat it in boiling water and installing while hot, it goes pretty fast. Unfortunately, the opening in the console gets worn when the old bushing wiggles around. The new one may fit loose. Dont forget to order new cone screws (2) Cone screws? No console, this is at the end of the long shift rod just before it turns to shift knuckle. Bob Here is a shift console for a side shift transmission. The cone screws are the set screws that are at each end of the shift rod. Fully remove them. Do not just loosen them to remove the shift rod. When you see them, they are pointed to a cone. The bushing in question is seen on the left. This one is an after market one. It is using a snap ring. I may have made that one. Normally they are just plastic with fingers that snap the bushing in place. Whats the round org thing in your pic? Bob Missing is the steel part the shift rod is screwed into. It has a socket that the plastic (Orange) part slides into. Thar part presses on a ball that is on the shift rod coming out of the transmission. This plastic part also breaks. I could also be part of your problem. You need to get into this and look. |
rhodyguy |
Sep 6 2013, 11:28 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,081 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
when was the last time you replaced ALL of the linkage related bushings to include the 2 that cradle the ball on the shift lever?
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Vysoc |
Sep 6 2013, 12:49 PM
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Vysoc Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 27-August 09 From: Young Harris, Georgia Member No.: 10,737 Region Association: South East States |
I had a similiar problem with my 75 side shifter, I bought the shift bushing kit from Pelican, the plastic bushing at the firewall was toast as was the bushing inside the coupler. The bushing at the transmission was the brass one and was in good shape. After I did the repair the car shifted 100% better I was ecstatic with the $43.00 dollar investment.
The plastic bushing that goes in at the firewall, the one closest to the tunnel is easiest put in by dropping it in boiling water for 3 minutes, you can then snap it in place with one hand. The coupler bushings can be put in by using a bolt and washers and a nut to pull it in place, use the SEARCH option and find the fix, the explanation is excellent and will save you hours. You can get the coupler on and off with a bench vise. You have an easy fix and if done correctly why would you sell that beautiful car??? Good Luck! Vysoc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
jimkelly |
Sep 6 2013, 01:12 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
the orange thing is like a bushing or dampener I guess.
it goes on the console lever and is in between the console lever and the gizmo on the end of the shift rod. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.pelicanparts.com-2460-1378494753.1.jpg) |
Razorbobsr |
Sep 6 2013, 01:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 6-June 10 From: Terre Haute Ind Member No.: 11,813 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Razorbobsr |
Sep 6 2013, 01:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 6-June 10 From: Terre Haute Ind Member No.: 11,813 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
the orange thing is like a bushing or dampener I guess. it goes on the console lever and is in between the console lever and the gizmo on the end of the shift rod. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.pelicanparts.com-2460-1378494753.1.jpg) Dont got one on mine! Bob |
Razorbobsr |
Sep 6 2013, 01:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 6-June 10 From: Terre Haute Ind Member No.: 11,813 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I had a similiar problem with my 75 side shifter, I bought the shift bushing kit from Pelican, the plastic bushing at the firewall was toast as was the bushing inside the coupler. The bushing at the transmission was the brass one and was in good shape. After I did the repair the car shifted 100% better I was ecstatic with the $43.00 dollar investment. The plastic bushing that goes in at the firewall, the one closest to the tunnel is easiest put in by dropping it in boiling water for 3 minutes, you can then snap it in place with one hand. The coupler bushings can be put in by using a bolt and washers and a nut to pull it in place, use the SEARCH option and find the fix, the explanation is excellent and will save you hours. You can get the coupler on and off with a bench vise. You have an easy fix and if done correctly why would you sell that beautiful car??? Good Luck! Why am I selling, answer is IN the pic! LOL Bob Vysoc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
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