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post Dec 15 2004, 05:51 PM
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Does this mount solid or should I be using rubber mounts like the 911 sport mount on my trans?

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post Dec 15 2004, 06:00 PM
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You can do it both ways , but most use the the 911 rubber mounts. Solid there is a lot more noise transmitted.
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post Dec 15 2004, 06:10 PM
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Just got off the phone with Jim Patrick. Same answer.
Mounts are coming.

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post Dec 15 2004, 06:10 PM
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Ask Steve Iverson about the customer service on his bar that failed....ask ME how much I would rather blow Hitler than buy anything from Patrick.....
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post Dec 15 2004, 06:12 PM
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trekkor,

I was just about to warn you that mikez was going to see this if you didn't delete it soon...

oh well....

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post Dec 15 2004, 06:16 PM
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Hey...next time ya call him tell I said hi..... :finger2:
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post Dec 15 2004, 06:40 PM
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You should use the WEVO engine mounts. I have some nice SPORT mounts around here somewhere.

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post Dec 15 2004, 06:48 PM
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Yummy.....WEVO makes some nice looking stuff....
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post Dec 15 2004, 08:11 PM
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Jim Patrick is a dick!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
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post Dec 15 2004, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(mikez @ Dec 15 2004, 04:16 PM)
Hey...next time ya call him tell I said hi..... :finger2:

So does your smilies mean you think he's #1??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 15 2004, 08:50 PM
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"Sod that for a game of soldiers!" (Sorry, forget where the quote is from.)

Go with the Rich Johnson mount, all the way!!

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post Dec 15 2004, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Dec 15 2004, 04:40 PM)
You should use the WEVO engine mounts. I have some nice SPORT mounts around here somewhere.

I respectfully disagree. Solid mounts transmit loads of vibrations. Richard Parr the PMO guy has posted a detailed dissertation in some of his advertising that says it's not a good idea for a engine with carbs. If it was a race car, maybe.
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post Dec 15 2004, 08:56 PM
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The skinny is that Parr of PMO published that because his carbs were having vibration related problems. I know guy that removed the PMO's from his car, put Webers back on and hasnt had a problem since.

now back to the motor mount stuff
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post Dec 15 2004, 09:00 PM
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post Dec 15 2004, 09:00 PM
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Patrick bar with 911 rubber sport mounts:


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post Dec 15 2004, 09:14 PM
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Patrick bar with 911 rubber sport mounts:


Yech,

Where did you get that worn out dirty ass junkyard engine from?

(Actually I just dislike the bar)
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post Dec 15 2004, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(914RS @ Dec 15 2004, 07:00 PM)
Patrick bar with 911 rubber sport mounts:

914RS,

Hope your Patrick bar works better than mine did. I bent three of them before giving up and going to a Vellios mount. Granted this was a track application but nevertheless the bar bent and I wondered why it was so hard to shift gears - the engine had dropped enough to contact the shilft rod. In fairness to Patrick, this was in 1997 and may have been early in his development of that product. The bar in your photo looks larger than the one I had (from memory). Good luck.

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post Dec 15 2004, 09:39 PM
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I've heard some bad stories about the early bars, but none about this version. I don't see how it could fail in some of the smaller six applications, but since mine is not small, I will be keeping any eye on it.

I'm quite confident that I can reinforce it to handle the power if it becomes necessary.

I'll also say, that although some dislike Jim Patrick (you'd think he killed MikeZ's dog or something), he has been nothing but attentive, responsive and respectful to my suggestions and concerns. I have to judge individuals based on my personal experience.
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post Dec 15 2004, 09:58 PM
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I'm using the same stout bar like 914RS.
I like the simple light wieght, yet, strong design.
It's built like a motorcycle frame.

Bill Pickering had one just like it in his 2.7 SIX race car.
He would get on two wheels and really pound on that car.
He couldn't bend it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Bill had great things to say about Jim Patrick.
I spoke to him today for the first time. He was busy and it was the end of the day. He didn't hurry me off, answered my parade of questions and was polite to me.

I told him I liked his website and he said "Thanks".
What more could you ask for?

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post Dec 15 2004, 10:08 PM
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Yes, Patrick Motorsports is not my favorite vendor.

Obviously you're welcome to try the bar, but the engine is much less stable with this bar than with a factory-style center mount. The engine is going to bounce and twist until the bar breaks. Fortunately, It's not a totally catastrophic failure though, because my bar broke and then just bent down until the engine weight was supported by the shift rod. It made it difficult to shift. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'll post pictures in a bit...

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