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Bought a rusty 911, Picking it up 11/15 |
Jgilliam914 |
Sep 30 2013, 10:09 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,327 Joined: 30-July 12 From: Iowa / Florida Member No.: 14,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have been looking for a long hood 912 to restore for the last several months and have had several to choose from. Few have been complete most have been without a engine. I stumbled across a 911 that from what I have been able to see in pics fairly complete although the pans, outer rockers lower door panels are rusty.
I am confident after a 914 pan and trunk panel replacement that I can tackle a 911. My question is " Is there something I need to consider even more yet" If so what? Other than having 2 Porsche projects going at the same time my wife say's go for it!! Gotta love a woman like that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif) |
Eric_Shea |
Sep 30 2013, 10:39 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
With rusty pans, it sounds like a pre 1970 tub. How pre?
The problem with a SWB car (65-68) is the availability of affordable parts. Pelican has a great community of 911 guys like here but, parts can be scarce to nonexistent for the early SWB cars. Plan to double everything you get for a 914. Pete and the gang at Restoration design have the pans and rockers but, again, you'll find small parts difficult to obtain. 69-73 is a little better. |
carr914 |
Sep 30 2013, 10:44 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,695 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
If you don't get a 69-73 (Coupe Only), you will never recover
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JmuRiz |
Sep 30 2013, 11:57 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,427 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If the pans, outer rockers lower door panels are rusty..be prepared to replace just about all the metal. Even cars that look rust free have some.
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Jgilliam914 |
Sep 30 2013, 12:58 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,327 Joined: 30-July 12 From: Iowa / Florida Member No.: 14,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It is a 1970T Coupe engine ran when parked Transaxle rebuilt. I do figure on tearing it down to the bare shell. The previous owner says S pistons E cams and it has webers. I understand the market I wouldn't buy a targa and sink much $ into it.
I have done my research with restoration design. The back half of the car looks good and the front suspension pan forward. I figure it is a money pit. But you will have something when you are done too |
Eric_Shea |
Sep 30 2013, 01:57 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Good car. We're restoring one now for a customer in the UK. Follow along:
Like: https://www.facebook.com/PMBPerformance or, for the body work... like: https://www.facebook.com/TroyLundquistRestorations |
rudedude |
Sep 30 2013, 02:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 1-January 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,387 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Is it Irish green? I had one many moons ago with a motor like that. If you can do a 914 you can do a 911 but as every says $$$$.
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Jgilliam914 |
Sep 30 2013, 02:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,327 Joined: 30-July 12 From: Iowa / Florida Member No.: 14,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It is red now. Owner says it was yellow the Code says Orange. Which is a color I would prefer on a long hood.
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JmuRiz |
Sep 30 2013, 03:05 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,427 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If it's a nice color, paint it whatever the factory color was.
My brother has a brown one...so he can paint whatever he wants when the time comes. |
patrick3000 |
Sep 30 2013, 03:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 19-July 06 From: Maryland Member No.: 6,468 |
If the torque tube is bad walk away otherwise you are on the right track, 70-71 has a unique trans so that sounds good.
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wndsnd |
Sep 30 2013, 04:35 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
What is this guy smoking? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/4090895800.html |
Gint |
Sep 30 2013, 05:32 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Good car. We're restoring one now for a customer in the UK. Follow along: Like: https://www.facebook.com/PMBPerformance or, for the body work... like: https://www.facebook.com/TroyLundquistRestorations GTFO! I'm going to have to call. Didn't get enough time to talk last time I saw you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Is Troy updating his own FB page or ... Liked I love this 75 S that I bought. And I will make money on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I'd be all over a 70 coupe if the price was right. |
Jgilliam914 |
Oct 1 2013, 09:18 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,327 Joined: 30-July 12 From: Iowa / Florida Member No.: 14,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
If the torque tube is bad walk away otherwise you are on the right track, 70-71 has a unique trans so that sounds good. What would I look for to know if the Torque tube is good or bad?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
BK911 |
Oct 1 2013, 10:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 672 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Rocky Top, TN Member No.: 1,674 Region Association: None |
If the torque tube is bad walk away otherwise you are on the right track, 70-71 has a unique trans so that sounds good. What would I look for to know if the Torque tube is good or bad?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Simple. Tear out the whole rear suspension and shine a flash light into the torque tube. But seriously, almost all of these cars are worth restoring now. Even the targa, which I actually prefer. Here is my current project, 71E Targa in light yellow: |
Jgilliam914 |
Oct 1 2013, 06:32 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,327 Joined: 30-July 12 From: Iowa / Florida Member No.: 14,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I see that the issues that plague a 70 coupe are similar to a 71 Targa! How long have you been playing with yours??
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billh1963 |
Oct 1 2013, 06:39 PM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
I don't want to rain on anyones parade; however. I think we will be seeing the bubble burst soon on the 356's and early 911's. If you want to restore the car I say go for it. Just don't do it with the idea that the car will become part of your retirement strategy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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r_towle |
Oct 1 2013, 09:42 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,576 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
What is this guy smoking? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/4090895800.html Have you seen the finished prices for the early cars? 10k for a decent tub is not out of line. 356 market is still rising, it's matched to the stock market guys.....these are people who pull out money, buy a car, and well it when they are bored with it. |
BK911 |
Oct 2 2013, 09:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 672 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Rocky Top, TN Member No.: 1,674 Region Association: None |
If you can weld, picking up a rusty tub should be worth the trouble.
If you have to pay somebody to do most of the work, probably not worth it. I can do a front pan in a weekend, another weekend for rockers, another for floor pans, etc... So in a month or so of weekends, I can have a tub ready for paint. Keep the car a few years and you should be ahead of the game. |
Jgilliam914 |
Oct 2 2013, 02:18 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,327 Joined: 30-July 12 From: Iowa / Florida Member No.: 14,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It isn't anything I plan to flip. I love the long hood look. When I was younger I never had the desire or the money. Now both are more plentiful. I am glad I didn't back in the day because I would have converted it into a RS clone. Then be kicking myself in the ass over it
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Cupomeat |
Oct 2 2013, 02:45 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
What is this guy smoking? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/4090895800.html Have you seen the finished prices for the early cars? 10k for a decent tub is not out of line. 356 market is still rising, it's matched to the stock market guys.....these are people who pull out money, buy a car, and well it when they are bored with it. Yeah, $13500 isn't crazy given the market (That is assuming most of the parts are there for that car). My dad advertised a rusty rolling chassis of a 69 L for $1500 7yrs ago (which I thought was low) and some guy drove 22hrs from florida to come get it and was very happy) and I wish he still had it. |
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