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> Bought a rusty 911, Picking it up 11/15
Jgilliam914
post Sep 30 2013, 10:09 AM
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I have been looking for a long hood 912 to restore for the last several months and have had several to choose from. Few have been complete most have been without a engine. I stumbled across a 911 that from what I have been able to see in pics fairly complete although the pans, outer rockers lower door panels are rusty.
I am confident after a 914 pan and trunk panel replacement that I can tackle a 911.
My question is " Is there something I need to consider even more yet" If so what? Other than having 2 Porsche projects going at the same time my wife say's go for it!!
Gotta love a woman like that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif)
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Eric_Shea
post Sep 30 2013, 10:39 AM
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With rusty pans, it sounds like a pre 1970 tub. How pre?

The problem with a SWB car (65-68) is the availability of affordable parts. Pelican has a great community of 911 guys like here but, parts can be scarce to nonexistent for the early SWB cars. Plan to double everything you get for a 914.

Pete and the gang at Restoration design have the pans and rockers but, again, you'll find small parts difficult to obtain. 69-73 is a little better.

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post Sep 30 2013, 10:44 AM
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If you don't get a 69-73 (Coupe Only), you will never recover
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post Sep 30 2013, 11:57 AM
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If the pans, outer rockers lower door panels are rusty..be prepared to replace just about all the metal. Even cars that look rust free have some.
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post Sep 30 2013, 12:58 PM
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It is a 1970T Coupe engine ran when parked Transaxle rebuilt. I do figure on tearing it down to the bare shell. The previous owner says S pistons E cams and it has webers. I understand the market I wouldn't buy a targa and sink much $ into it.
I have done my research with restoration design. The back half of the car looks good and the front suspension pan forward. I figure it is a money pit. But you will have something when you are done too
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post Sep 30 2013, 01:57 PM
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Good car. We're restoring one now for a customer in the UK. Follow along:

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or, for the body work... like:
https://www.facebook.com/TroyLundquistRestorations
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post Sep 30 2013, 02:09 PM
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Is it Irish green? I had one many moons ago with a motor like that. If you can do a 914 you can do a 911 but as every says $$$$.
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post Sep 30 2013, 02:41 PM
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It is red now. Owner says it was yellow the Code says Orange. Which is a color I would prefer on a long hood.
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post Sep 30 2013, 03:05 PM
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If it's a nice color, paint it whatever the factory color was.

My brother has a brown one...so he can paint whatever he wants when the time comes.
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post Sep 30 2013, 03:08 PM
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If the torque tube is bad walk away otherwise you are on the right track, 70-71 has a unique trans so that sounds good.
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post Sep 30 2013, 04:35 PM
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What is this guy smoking? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/4090895800.html

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post Sep 30 2013, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Sep 30 2013, 12:57 PM) *

Good car. We're restoring one now for a customer in the UK. Follow along:

Like:
https://www.facebook.com/PMBPerformance

or, for the body work... like:
https://www.facebook.com/TroyLundquistRestorations

GTFO! I'm going to have to call. Didn't get enough time to talk last time I saw you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Is Troy updating his own FB page or ... Liked

I love this 75 S that I bought. And I will make money on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I'd be all over a 70 coupe if the price was right.
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post Oct 1 2013, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(patrick3000 @ Sep 30 2013, 04:08 PM) *

If the torque tube is bad walk away otherwise you are on the right track, 70-71 has a unique trans so that sounds good.


What would I look for to know if the Torque tube is good or bad?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Oct 1 2013, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(Jgilliam914 @ Oct 1 2013, 11:18 AM) *

QUOTE(patrick3000 @ Sep 30 2013, 04:08 PM) *

If the torque tube is bad walk away otherwise you are on the right track, 70-71 has a unique trans so that sounds good.


What would I look for to know if the Torque tube is good or bad?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)



Simple. Tear out the whole rear suspension and shine a flash light into the torque tube. But seriously, almost all of these cars are worth restoring now. Even the targa, which I actually prefer.

Here is my current project, 71E Targa in light yellow:

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post Oct 1 2013, 06:32 PM
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I see that the issues that plague a 70 coupe are similar to a 71 Targa! How long have you been playing with yours??
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post Oct 1 2013, 06:39 PM
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I don't want to rain on anyones parade; however. I think we will be seeing the bubble burst soon on the 356's and early 911's. If you want to restore the car I say go for it. Just don't do it with the idea that the car will become part of your retirement strategy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 1 2013, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(wndsnd @ Sep 30 2013, 06:35 PM) *

Have you seen the finished prices for the early cars?

10k for a decent tub is not out of line.

356 market is still rising, it's matched to the stock market guys.....these are people who pull out money, buy a car, and well it when they are bored with it.
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post Oct 2 2013, 09:56 AM
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If you can weld, picking up a rusty tub should be worth the trouble.
If you have to pay somebody to do most of the work, probably not worth it.
I can do a front pan in a weekend, another weekend for rockers, another for floor pans, etc... So in a month or so of weekends, I can have a tub ready for paint.
Keep the car a few years and you should be ahead of the game.
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post Oct 2 2013, 02:18 PM
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It isn't anything I plan to flip. I love the long hood look. When I was younger I never had the desire or the money. Now both are more plentiful. I am glad I didn't back in the day because I would have converted it into a RS clone. Then be kicking myself in the ass over it
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post Oct 2 2013, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Oct 1 2013, 11:42 PM) *

QUOTE(wndsnd @ Sep 30 2013, 06:35 PM) *

Have you seen the finished prices for the early cars?

10k for a decent tub is not out of line.

356 market is still rising, it's matched to the stock market guys.....these are people who pull out money, buy a car, and well it when they are bored with it.


Yeah, $13500 isn't crazy given the market (That is assuming most of the parts are there for that car). My dad advertised a rusty rolling chassis of a 69 L for $1500 7yrs ago (which I thought was low) and some guy drove 22hrs from florida to come get it and was very happy) and I wish he still had it.
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