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> Ford 9" Transaxle, the lack of
veekry9
post Oct 13 2013, 06:45 PM
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Hello World.
I posted 1st as a reply to Marcus C6.
How difficult would it be to
fabricate a transaxle that can carry the Ford 9"
ring + pinion?I have viewed Currie's site and see no
mention anywhere online of such a contraption.
A ZF from a Pantera approaches the torque capacity,
the original GT40's box was a Hewland race piece.
(Edit#2:on research,a Colotti tx was used on the 289
mk1's,still in business.)
http://www.colotti.com/
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(Edit:Later a KarKraft tx was used,perhaps some
production parts)
Are there any foundrymen on the 914W site?
And of course the latemodel Porsche TX's are works of art.
Could there possibly be a demand for such a high load TX?
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post Oct 13 2013, 07:04 PM
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Why not just buy one of these? The R&D is already done...

http://mendeolamotors.com/trans-proto/inde...7&Itemid=29
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post Oct 13 2013, 07:09 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Or go with an Audi R10 unit.
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post Oct 13 2013, 07:37 PM
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What's the point of a ring and pinion that is so much stronger than any transmission that would go behind it? 930 not enough? How much power are you looking to handle, anyway?
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post Oct 14 2013, 06:36 PM
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A blown/turbo Porsche or other V8 would likely snap any lesser
TX.Anyone here dragging Renegade conversions?
Just how fragile are the transaxles you are using.
A fellow here has an Audi behind an LS he's installing
longitudinally.

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8k bid on ebay.

Ford 351C torque/HP.
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post Oct 14 2013, 06:47 PM
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post Oct 14 2013, 07:15 PM
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Wot duh fouk!!
lessee:
SBC 400+cid
headers,cam,750holley
largerunner manifold.
TH400 to a chain transfer case
and then to 2!! center sections.
The Mother of Invention.
A ton of work that was likely alot of fun.
How does it go?
Loud fast scary whahoo!
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The guy who built the gates beltdrive irs.
Innovation,ingenuity and audacity.
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post Oct 14 2013, 07:31 PM
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the car went thru many revisions.

http://www.youtube.com/user/914gp/videos
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post Oct 14 2013, 07:34 PM
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Yeah
I remember that car
I call it the DragPanzer
mit camo.
2speed PG?
and finally to a DeDion axle
in its last iteration.?
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post Oct 14 2013, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Oct 13 2013, 09:04 PM) *

Why not just buy one of these? The R&D is already done...

http://mendeolamotors.com/trans-proto/inde...7&Itemid=29



have done many yrs ago.
they are indeed very nice.
I'm thinkin along the lines lately
of what Lamborghini did.
Flywheel forward>trans between passengers>
custom fab/billet/casting transfer case>
driveshaft rearward to 9"custom transaxle.
Its been done before though not in a backyard.
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post Oct 14 2013, 08:40 PM
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That's an absurd amount of work.

Just get a Mendy transaxle and be done with it. One of the guys on the Bird Board had a tube-frame blown SBC racer with a Mendy. No problems.

The 935s ran 800 HP through a four-speed 930 gearbox (with cooling). How much power were you interested in supporting? What kind of axles did you want to use to try to hold that power?

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post Oct 14 2013, 10:31 PM
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if you intend on drag racing a 914...... well good luck!

irs isn't the most conducive to drag racing, to many moving parts at high torque loads [stubs to diff flanges]. to beef these up to stand the forces would be counterproductive to accelerating the rotating masses [the tires, wheels, halfshafts and the diff it's self.

if you dead set try to fab what they use on t/f cars. clutch to torque shaft to diff. you would have to rely on clutch slip to aid the acceleration and launch.

sounds stupid? yep!

medi's cost $$$$ because they can stand the power and have been proven. but they can break just like anything else that gets abused with high instant torque loads.

you want big power and no parts broken..... bring lots of $$$$$
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post Oct 15 2013, 04:23 AM
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Ferrari 512bb put the boxer 12 over the top of the trans with a geared transfer case on the rear. Very clean but big HP would snap the pinion. The 901 trans only weigh @75lbs so if you are looking at a 9" with a TH you will be adding a serious amount of weight to the r/e. Seems to me a used Camaro would have you down the track years ahead of what you're thinking. But if it's your dream then go for it !

Check this out- Patrick 914
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We've asked what horsepower and what application, with no answer. I don't think there is an answer, this is all just speculative hypothetical "what if's".
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SBC 400+cid
headers,cam,750holley
largerunner manifold.

With early double hump heads, 10.25:1 compression about 400 HP. Thats the combo I ran in my jet boat.
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post Oct 15 2013, 10:23 AM
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Read this one held 1100HP. It has your 9"

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looks like a Tim Allen belt sander.
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post Oct 15 2013, 01:26 PM
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that would stick out the back of a 914 and more than double the weight of a transaxle.
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