Side shifter console measurement needed, for the shift lever |
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Side shifter console measurement needed, for the shift lever |
Phoenix-MN |
Oct 13 2013, 08:33 PM
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Mike Bellis |
Oct 13 2013, 09:11 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
I know it's less than 3". I used a cable with a 3" stroke on my cable shifter... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Phoenix-MN |
Oct 14 2013, 05:45 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
I know it's less than 3". I used a cable with a 3" stroke on my cable shifter... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Ok, that's a good start, but I need a more precise measurement because I will be making a longer arm and I need to figure out how much room I'll have in the housing. Thanks |
rick 918-S |
Oct 14 2013, 02:44 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,470 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I don't have a car in the shop with a transaxle connected but this is a good bump anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif)
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Phoenix-MN |
Oct 14 2013, 05:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
I don't have a car in the shop with a transaxle connected but this is a good bump anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) Actually, this would be easier to measure with the transaxle on the bench (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
jimkelly |
Oct 14 2013, 05:52 PM
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Phoenix-MN |
Oct 14 2013, 07:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
here is something to work with. We're getting closer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) but not quite what I need |
r_towle |
Oct 14 2013, 08:00 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,584 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
3/4 of an inch from center in either direction.
Made me go get all greasy |
timothy_nd28 |
Oct 14 2013, 08:03 PM
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I think he wants a measurement within 0.0001"
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r_towle |
Oct 14 2013, 08:05 PM
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0.75 from center to center in either position
Overall 1.50000000 I measured against the edge of the housing to the center of the ball in all three positions |
Jon B |
Oct 14 2013, 08:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 28-September 13 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 16,448 Region Association: None |
Maybe this will help.
There are more precise ways to do this, but I don't have the time. The lever cannot be in both positions at once, as in your image, and there's no nearby reference to measure against, so I extended the two 8mm studs. The lever ball does not hit the extended stud in either direction, as your image suggests. It comes closer towards the rear, as the stud offset is different. The ball comes within 0.160" (approx) of stud in forward direction, within 0.060" (approx) in rear direction. Inner distance between the two studs is approx 2.280". Studs are not equal distance from the lever pivot point. I'll let you do the math :) Jon B. Vista, CA |
r_towle |
Oct 14 2013, 08:29 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,584 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Oh, I want one if you do it....
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jimkelly |
Oct 14 2013, 08:37 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
why are you " making a longer arm" ??
are you going cable shift, or are you trying to lengthen your shifts, or ... ? I've seen pics of welded consoles, so you may not be fully limited by the edges of the console. |
r_towle |
Oct 14 2013, 08:42 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,584 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
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Bob L. |
Oct 14 2013, 08:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: 7-August 11 From: Austin TX Member No.: 13,411 Region Association: Southwest Region |
why are you " making a longer arm" ?? are you going cable shift, or are you trying to lengthen your shifts, or ... ? I've seen pics of welded consoles, so you may not be fully limited by the edges of the console. Longer arm =shorter shift Depends on which arm you are referring to. If you lengthen the one pictured, wouldn't in lengthen the shift. The end would have to swing a larger arc to move the innerds the same amount. |
Jon B |
Oct 14 2013, 09:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 28-September 13 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 16,448 Region Association: None |
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Phoenix-MN |
Oct 15 2013, 06:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
Now we're cook'n with gas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
I think he wants a measurement within 0.0001" That would be nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) 0.75 from center to center in either position Overall 1.50000000 I measured against the edge of the housing to the center of the ball in all three positions Perfect (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Maybe this will help. There are more precise ways to do this, but I don't have the time. The lever cannot be in both positions at once, as in your image, and there's no nearby reference to measure against, so I extended the two 8mm studs. The lever ball does not hit the extended stud in either direction, as your image suggests. It comes closer towards the rear, as the stud offset is different. The ball comes within 0.160" (approx) of stud in forward direction, within 0.060" (approx) in rear direction. Inner distance between the two studs is approx 2.280". Studs are not equal distance from the lever pivot point. I'll let you do the math (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Jon B. Vista, CA Perfect (again) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Yes, this is for a cable shift idea that I've been thinking about for some time now. Most of the solutions that are used seem to be overly complicated when it comes to the linkage design at the shift console. I have an idea that will have a very simple and robust design with few parts. Now that I have some measurements I can start to draw up things in cad. Thank you to all |
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