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914/6, valve adjustment |
bcheney |
Oct 17 2013, 09:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,348 Region Association: South East States |
I am planning to adjust the valves in my 6 soon. Anyone have tips on a good procedure to follow? My car is a 6 conversion using an original 6 engine and flywheel. My lower valve covers are turbo type that have been shaved so they can be easily removed. Just looking for some tips since this will be the first time I am adjusting the valves in this car!
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GeorgeRud |
Oct 17 2013, 09:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I sometimes wonder if the easiest procedure isn't:
1. Remove engine and transaxle 2. Adjust valves 3. Reinstall engine and transaxle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
SLITS |
Oct 18 2013, 06:22 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) almost.
Besides doing the adjustment by the Factory method, which requires over and under many times you can do the backside of the cam method. Since you can actually see the position of the follower on the cam you adjust those valves that are on the heel of the cam, rotate, and do more. This saves starting on the V1 marker, #1 in firing position and adjusting the intake & exhaust and then moving to V2 for the next cylinder in firing order, etc,. It's hard to see the marks on the pulley unless you have cut a hole in the firewall. |
Luke M |
Oct 18 2013, 06:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
It's a PITA to do. Like stated if you can't see the timing marks on the flywheel , the front pulley through a hole in the firewall, or the dizzy you have some work cut out for yourself. I've done the valve adjustment several times on a factory 6 and it's a pain even with the flywheel properly marked (I high lighted the marks prior to installing the trans one time). In the future I plan on dropping the engine and trans to do the valves adjustment. I'm getting older and this up and down under the car thing is a pain unless you have a lift. It's 3 bolts holding the engine/trans in , the cv bolts, fuel lines, some wires need to be disconnected, and oil lines which you would need to remove one anyway to drain the oil. I can have the engine and trans on the ground in less the 1 hr. Plus I would clean up the engine bay while I'm there and fix any future/potential problems. Don't forget to do the adjustment with the engine stone cold and drain the oil. Either way engine in or out of the car it can be done. It depends on which route you want to take. Some will agree and some not with the engine drop. The guys that will agree will be like me as I'm not as flexible as I use to be. Getting old sucks plus I don't like being under the car any longer then I have to be.
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billh1963 |
Oct 18 2013, 07:18 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
I sometimes wonder if the easiest procedure isn't: 1. Remove engine and transaxle 2. Adjust valves 3. Reinstall engine and transaxle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I had my 2.2 6 resealed a couple of months ago and the mechanic told me he was going to do the valve adjustment at the same time while the engine was out. He said that he will drop the engine again the next time the valves need adjustment. To him it's actually faster (saves me $$) plus it's a good time to go over the engine and check out/fix any leaks or other issues. |
6freak |
Oct 18 2013, 08:09 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I am planning to adjust the valves in my 6 soon. Anyone have tips on a good procedure to follow? My car is a 6 conversion using an original 6 engine and flywheel. My lower valve covers are turbo type that have been shaved so they can be easily removed. Just looking for some tips since this will be the first time I am adjusting the valves in this car! if you can grow a third arm that would be good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) drain/drip for 3 days ...first time i did it i double and triple checked myself befor putting it all back togather! and take your time theres some handy tools just for this task !look into it...its not a tuff job just time consuming and a little messy if ya dont let it drip ... |
Cap'n Krusty |
Oct 18 2013, 08:13 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
One uses the SAME method as with the 4s. Read up on it in my post found in the "classic" forum. Difficult in the car, but easier than pulling the driveline. Buy yourself a remote starter harness and button.
The Cap'n |
bcheney |
Oct 18 2013, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,348 Region Association: South East States |
One uses the SAME method as with the 4s. Read up on it in my post found in the "classic" forum. Difficult in the car, but easier than pulling the driveline. Buy yourself a remote starter harness and button. The Cap'n Is this the remote deal your talking about...I had it in my stash from about 20 years ago! I've never used it. How do you connect the leads? Attached thumbnail(s) |
Cap'n Krusty |
Oct 18 2013, 10:10 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
One to the battery post of the starter, one to the pin where the yellow (switch) wire connects.
The Cap'n |
914itis |
Oct 18 2013, 10:36 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
What are the the pros and cons to cutting a hole on the firewall and bolt a remove able plate for easy access? Not just for valve adjustment, replacing alternator belts and even the alternator.
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bcheney |
Oct 18 2013, 10:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,348 Region Association: South East States |
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bcheney |
Oct 18 2013, 11:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,348 Region Association: South East States |
What are the the pros and cons to cutting a hole on the firewall and bolt a remove able plate for easy access? Not just for valve adjustment, replacing alternator belts and even the alternator. Pro's... a little less hassle...better physical and visual access. Con's... destroys originalty of the car (not a concern if it's a 6 conversion) and you still have to take out the backpad behind your seats whenever you want access and that takes a little time. Not sure an access hole helps with Alternator removal/install. You can solve the alternator remove/install issue by customizing your engine shroud so that the tap half can be removed without having to remove the carbs/intakes. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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