Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
 Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Underbody sway bar
r_towle
post Oct 24 2013, 05:53 PM
Post #1


Custom Member
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 24,574
Joined: 9-January 03
From: Taxachusetts
Member No.: 124
Region Association: North East States
Is there some trick to get the underbody sway bar back into the bushings?
The geometry says no way.....

I had to take off a control arm to heat up the nut on the ball joint so I could get it off.

Now I cannot get the control arm in the cross member with the sway bar in the bushing, and if I take out the sway bar, and put the control arm in the cross member, I cannot possibly bend the sway bar enough to get it to line up with the bushing.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jimkelly
post Oct 24 2013, 06:03 PM
Post #2


Delaware USA
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,969
Joined: 5-August 04
From: Delaware, USA
Member No.: 2,460
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
pic


Attached image(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
r_towle
post Oct 24 2013, 07:17 PM
Post #3


Custom Member
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 24,574
Joined: 9-January 03
From: Taxachusetts
Member No.: 124
Region Association: North East States
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Oct 24 2013, 08:03 PM) *

pic

Pretty, now put it in and let me know how that goes.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
carr914
post Oct 24 2013, 09:42 PM
Post #4


Racer from Birth
****************************************************************************************************

Group: Members
Posts: 118,648
Joined: 2-February 04
From: Tampa,FL
Member No.: 1,623
Region Association: South East States
I hope someone has an Answer as I'm close to putting mine on and after looking at it, I came to the same conclusion - How the Fuch is this going on?
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
toolguy
post Oct 24 2013, 09:47 PM
Post #5


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,267
Joined: 2-April 11
From: San Diego / El Cajon
Member No.: 12,889
Region Association: Southern California
Push one side through its bushing further, then the other side will slide in. .
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Jeff Hail
post Oct 24 2013, 09:59 PM
Post #6


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,141
Joined: 3-May 07
From: LA/ CA
Member No.: 7,712
It can be done in the car. Suspension at full droop. Use soapy water or glycerine on the outer bushings. Install one side about an inch into the control arm bushing and then the other side. Keep the middle of the bar down off the crossmember brackets. Wiggle, push, rubber mallet towards the front of the car. It will go in. When the veins in your forehead start coming out .. you are almost there.Then push the bar upward the into the brackets on the crossmember and tighten everything up.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
carr914
post Oct 24 2013, 10:29 PM
Post #7


Racer from Birth
****************************************************************************************************

Group: Members
Posts: 118,648
Joined: 2-February 04
From: Tampa,FL
Member No.: 1,623
Region Association: South East States
QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Oct 24 2013, 11:59 PM) *

When the veins in your forehead start coming out .. you are almost there.


Gotcha!
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
balljoint
post Oct 25 2013, 05:15 AM
Post #8


914 Wizard
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,000
Joined: 6-April 04
Member No.: 1,897
Region Association: None
Some red wine and Sade will also help.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jimkelly
post Oct 25 2013, 05:29 AM
Post #9


Delaware USA
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,969
Joined: 5-August 04
From: Delaware, USA
Member No.: 2,460
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
pic is not mine - but for reference only.

it seemed to me that it needs to be fully assembled before install and installed as one assy - but someone above says no.

look forward to seeing how you like it.

jim
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
r_towle
post Oct 25 2013, 06:47 AM
Post #10


Custom Member
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 24,574
Joined: 9-January 03
From: Taxachusetts
Member No.: 124
Region Association: North East States
QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Oct 24 2013, 11:59 PM) *

It can be done in the car. Suspension at full droop. Use soapy water or glycerine on the outer bushings. Install one side about an inch into the control arm bushing and then the other side. Keep the middle of the bar down off the crossmember brackets. Wiggle, push, rubber mallet towards the front of the car. It will go in. When the veins in your forehead start coming out .. you are almost there.Then push the bar upward the into the brackets on the crossmember and tighten everything up.

All done.

So, lots of lube.
Push one bar about 2 inches past the end of the bushing.
Keep the sway bar cross bar brackets in the correct orientation....you will see what I mean...
Get a long screw driver and from below lever the sway bar end against the strut...
It will just about make it.

I set everything up, tried a few times, wrote my two threads on here and PP, had some food...went out a forced the damn thing in place.

My arms were tired at the end of it..

rich
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
r_towle
post Oct 25 2013, 06:52 AM
Post #11


Custom Member
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 24,574
Joined: 9-January 03
From: Taxachusetts
Member No.: 124
Region Association: North East States
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Oct 25 2013, 07:29 AM) *

pic is not mine - but for reference only.

it seemed to me that it needs to be fully assembled before install and installed as one assy - but someone above says no.

look forward to seeing how you like it.

jim

I don't see why with the proper lift, like a motorcycle lift, you could not do the whole thing at once...
Then its 8 or 10 fasteners...done.

If I was at the point you are TC....I would aim for that...clean and assembled out of the car, then get George over there for a bit and move the whole thing in one shot.

That Sway bar makes it worth the effort to assemble it outside the car, where you have room to wiggle everything.

Really stupid design.
Why change a good design of the through body bar with what looks like a total afterthought....and its not adjustable...and its damn near impossible to install.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Dave_Darling
post Oct 25 2013, 12:42 PM
Post #12


914 Idiot
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 14,986
Joined: 9-January 03
From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona
Member No.: 121
Region Association: Northern California
Because it was cheaper to build. Just bend up the bar, weld the brackets onto the A-arms, and a couple of bushings, and that's it.

Through-body setups require the bar (straight, but with machined ends), plus the lever arms (forget the actual name) plus the drop-links, with bushings at each end. plus the A-arm bracket, plus cutting a hole in the car, plus welding on the nuts to retain the bar, plus the bushing holders...

It's a bit more of a pain to install, but it takes less time when initially assembling on the factory production line. So it's much cheaper in the end.

--DD
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
balljoint
post Oct 25 2013, 05:33 PM
Post #13


914 Wizard
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,000
Joined: 6-April 04
Member No.: 1,897
Region Association: None
Wait wait wait!

Does this mean the flares are all done?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
r_towle
post Oct 25 2013, 07:05 PM
Post #14


Custom Member
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 24,574
Joined: 9-January 03
From: Taxachusetts
Member No.: 124
Region Association: North East States
QUOTE(balljoint @ Oct 25 2013, 07:33 PM) *

Wait wait wait!

Does this mean the flares are all done?

911 getting it ready for a rally tomorrow...

And no, I promise I have not changed it since the SCROT pictures...though I did put the cover back on.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
« Next Oldest · 914World Garage · Next Newest »
 

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Display Mode: Standard · Switch to: Linear+ · Switch to: Outline

Track this topic · Email this topic · Print this topic · Subscribe to this forum

- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 16th May 2024 - 04:55 AM
Invision Power Board v9.1.4 © 2024  IPS, Inc.
All rights reserved 914World.com © since 2002
914World.com is the fastest growing online 914 community!
We have it all, classifieds, events, forums, vendors, parts, autocross, racing, technical articles, events calendar, newsletter, restoration, gallery, archives, history and more for your Porsche 914 ...