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Feeler for my Daily..., 914-6 conversion car |
'73-914kid |
Oct 28 2013, 02:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California |
Much to the chagrin of my dad and 914 buddies, I still have a fascination with 911's, and after bringing my girlfriend to see the 911 that has been catching my attention on and off for the past year or so, her parents decided that they would allow her to ride in a 911 as opposed to my 914..
Too many things adding up that screams get the 911.. So, for that reason, I am just gonna put a feeler out there for my car right now.. If there is serious interest, I might consider parting with it at this point. So, here's the list of stuff on the car.. (I feel like this list gets exponentially longer every time I post the car.) The car was an original '73-1.7 Black car, and was modified beyond stock before I bought it. Body: Fresh paint. Much of the car was taken down to bare metal and re-massaged with as limited amounts of filler possible and painted with DUPONT single stage Adriatic Blue. The trunks and engine bay still retain the original black, however, doorjambs were painted blue as well. Camp914 Targa bar vinyl was installed on the car post-paint. All new seals and rubber pieces have been installed on the car from 914rubber or oem Porsche parts. The car leaks a very minimal amount of water only when sitting still. My dad and I installed a roll bar and door bars in the car when we built it. I would call it an "Engman long kit on steroids" as it performs a similar action. Brakes: rebuilt calipers font and rear. Fronts are Volvo 240 series 4 piston calipers, rears are stock 914. Both have fresh pads and rotors. The front rotors are Coleman racing circle track rotors. Easy and cheap to replace. -19mm Master cylinder and adjustable proportioning valve inside the car at the base of the firewall. The car STOPS hard without any drama. Interior: Brand new carpet kit from 914ap.com, including carpeting on the firewall. FatMat was installed on the firewall and on as many surfaces as possible to deaden sound. It has truly made the car comfortable to drive. FatMat was also installed on the targa top underneath a new headliner to remove the acoustic resonance the fiberglass top produced. The dash was recovered in heavy felt 917 style recently. Car will come with Scheel Mann seats. These are by far the single most comfortable high bolster seats I've ever sat in while driving a 914. The gas pedal is a D-Zug RSR pedal, which is also more comfortable on the foot when driving long distances. Gauges were all rebuilt be the late Al Garcia with LED's. They look awesome, and are birght as hell. (Part of me doesn't want to sell the car with these as they were a Highschool graduation present to me from him way back when.. A deal may need to be reached in regards to the gauges) Brand new autometer monster tach matches the speedo and gas gauges, and the custom center console contains an oil pressure, oil temperature, and cylinder head temp gauge. The center console contains two speakers and the car will maintain the SONY Xplod stereo that is in it at the moment. The momo prototipo will not be included in the sale of the car if it gets to that point. I spend long amounts of time in the car, and the interior reflects that in a positive way. It is clean and not overdone, but extremely comfortable. Suspension: The suspension was all rebuilt when I built the car 5 years ago. Delrin rear trailing arm bushings, and elephant racing fronts. Bilstein HD struts all around, and 180lb rear springs with 22mm front TB's up front. Stock sway bar with adjustable downlinks. Wheels: 15x8 and 15x6 fuchs will be what the car is sold with. Both wheels have brand new tires installed on them. Powertrain: The engine is a mag case 2.7 RS spec 6. The cas was shufflepinned, case saved, and brought back to 0-0 on the mains. It has S cams, and 40 IDA carbs. The motor runs awesome and pulls super hard. It's definitely the fastest 914 I've ever driven. Spins to 7200 RPM with ease and sounds great doing it. 964 oil filter console, oil pump, updated chain tensioners, you get the idea. The entire plumbing system was redone in -12 and -16 Stainless braided lines, and the oil tank (factory -6 tank) was refinished and is perfectly cleaned. The motor uses an external cooler up front. It's a Benz diesel cooler with -AN fittings welded on. I have yet to see any oil temperature above 190 sitting in socal traffic on a hot day. The exhaust is the factory -6 heat exchangers. They are in great shape, and the heater works awesome. The heat exchangers are coupled to a Bischoff Stainless muffler. I polished it 2 months ago and it is gaining that wonderful golden/blue color that stainless exhaust systems get. Gearbox will be a fresh side-shift box, with brand new CV joints, through new FAG wheel bearings. I suppose that's mostly it for now.. I'll try to drum up as many pictures as possible of specific parts.. Right now, I feel like $26,500 would be where the value of the car sits.. If I'm way out of line on this, please understand this is just a feeler add and I'm not set to sell it, but I would appreciate constructive criticism on the value of the car. Any questions, send me a PM. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm8.staticflickr.com-9714-1382990567.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm4.staticflickr.com-9714-1382990568.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm3.staticflickr.com-9714-1382990568.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm8.staticflickr.com-9714-1382990569.4.jpg) I'll have more photos this evening once I brave the weather and walk out to the parking structure... |
matthepcat |
Oct 29 2013, 01:33 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
What a beauty!
I would buy it, if I was not also looking to cross over to the dark side of tail draggers. As for price, considering the freshness of paint and engine work would tell me your price is not outrageous |
JmuRiz |
Oct 29 2013, 04:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,426 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
All those details point to a car near $30k in my opinion. Inspection would be needed , but top notch items seem to have been used.
Would you mind showing you oil cooler setup? I was thinking of an old MB cooler as well. |
bcheney |
Oct 30 2013, 10:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,348 Region Association: South East States |
This car looks like a tremendous machine. The details described sound top notch. However, high resolution pics of all the important areas of the car are necessary for buyers not close enough stop by to see it in person. The price seems fair as I have completed a conversion myself and know just how much time, money and labor is required to to a quality job. That said, the -6 "conversion market" is not quite as strong as the -6 "orignal market" and you will need to be patient or have some luck on your side to find the right buyer quickly. I love the look of your car and can't wait to see more pics.
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Randy_L |
Oct 30 2013, 03:21 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 23-July 11 From: N. California Member No.: 13,355 Region Association: Northern California |
PM Sent.
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'73-914kid |
Oct 30 2013, 03:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California |
Here are two crappy cell phone pics of the interior and engine bay.. I left my Nikon battery charger at home conveniently... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
Image quality credit goes to Sir Andy (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm8.staticflickr.com-9714-1383169757.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm8.staticflickr.com-9714-1383169757.2.jpg) |
pete000 |
Oct 30 2013, 07:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
Love the color, put it on Bring a Trailer and I bet it goes fast at your price point !
Good Luck ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
oldschool |
Oct 30 2013, 08:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
Here are two crappy cell phone pics of the interior and engine bay.. I left my Nikon battery charger at home conveniently... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Image quality credit goes to Sir Andy (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm8.staticflickr.com-9714-1383169757.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm8.staticflickr.com-9714-1383169757.2.jpg) Here we go again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) ...I almost traded 911S the other day. |
Nimrod |
Oct 30 2013, 10:18 PM
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I'm new here ... Group: Members Posts: 0 Joined: 30-June 11 From: San Clemente Member No.: 13,263 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm in. Can I come see it? Ill pm you.
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earossi |
Nov 3 2013, 07:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 8-December 11 From: Chicago, Il Member No.: 13,878 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
PM sent. Please advise.
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RFoulds |
Nov 4 2013, 06:07 PM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Ask $26500. that sounds a little high. Nothing lower than $22k for final price though.
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rhodyguy |
Nov 4 2013, 07:22 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) . foul. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) 15 yd penalty. uncool. rules...
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sean_v8_914 |
Nov 30 2013, 12:25 PM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
go for it. its only a car. 911, elise, cortina, super seven, 328gtb z06, 240z, s2000, mr2, rx7, bb512, 951, 996, 240sx, fair laDY, SILVIA...i want to try out as many different cars as I can. i used to think I would remember them all.
try all the flavors life has to offer. |
mepstein |
Nov 30 2013, 01:21 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,272 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) . foul. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) 15 yd penalty. uncool. rules... If I'm way out of line on this, please understand this is just a feeler add and I'm not set to sell it, but I would appreciate constructive criticism on the value of the car. I agree with RFoulds, 26K seems high since there are some paint and other details that remain undone. The roll cage would be a deal killer for me. I would not want one in a street car. Having some pricey oem parts is a real positive. GLWTS |
boxstr |
Nov 30 2013, 05:10 PM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Beautiful car.."!! The down sides to this is the color change, the fact that the trunks and other spaces were not painted body color. If you are selling the car with anything different then I would add them to the car now! Let a buyer see exactly what it is going to look like when they take delivery. Take care of any little TLC items now. At the price you have it listed at, a buyer doesn't want a project, or a car that needs work. I would get the car looking a nice and complete as you can. You are on the higher end of a 6 conversion. It should be finished and ready to go. If not, adjust your price to sell.
Good luck .. Craig at CAMP |
tangerinetea |
Dec 15 2013, 09:11 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 22-December 10 From: Florida Member No.: 12,510 Region Association: None |
is your car still for sale?
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Bobby Smith |
Dec 18 2013, 03:58 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 19-July 07 From: VA Beach VA Member No.: 7,926 |
I respectfully disagree with Craig's statement that the price is on the high side of a six conversion. Condition and the components (engine tranny etc.) mean everything. Anyone that has built a high quality conversion six knows the cost and believe me it's WAY north of $30. My 74 3.2 was built by Greg Fordahl. It has the "best of the best" components. The build ran nearly $70,000 not including the rust free donor car.
Just my 2 cents. |
'73-914kid |
Dec 18 2013, 05:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California |
Wow, I haven't checked this post for a long time..didn't even realize people were still posting on it..
I have kind of just been enjoying driving a finished car I guess.. So with that in mind, I haven't been trying very hard to put it out there for sale, unless the right 911 comes around, or unless someone offers my a 911 in trade... My problem is that I have an emotional connection to the car, hence why this was just a feeler add. Now that I'm off from school for Christmas break, I get to do the little things I've been wanting to for a while, but for those that are interested, It's kind of just a wait and see situation for me. The car is pretty much finished though. I know that to some, the trunks being satin black instead of blue is considered "unfinished" but it is what it is. It was painted as a daily driver, and removing the gas tanks, heater controls, fresh air blower, and stuff of that nature to paint it blue was not in the equation. I appreciate all the comments though, that was the point of this thread.. get people's opinions on my car before deciding to keep it or sell it. I still don't know what I want to do yet.. |
matthepcat |
Dec 18 2013, 06:22 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
As a stranger that you don't know, I say keep it. Hard work and money into this is worth enjoying for at least a few more years. Guarantee you will miss it if it's gone.
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914z |
Jan 2 2014, 01:50 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 11-September 04 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 2,737 |
Much to the chagrin of my dad and 914 buddies, I still have a fascination with 911's, and after bringing my girlfriend to see the 911 that has been catching my attention on and off for the past year or so, her parents decided that they would allow her to ride in a 911 as opposed to my 914.. Too many things adding up that screams get the 911.. So, for that reason, I am just gonna put a feeler out there for my car right now.. If there is serious interest, I might consider parting with it at this point. So, here's the list of stuff on the car.. (I feel like this list gets exponentially longer every time I post the car.) The car was an original '73-1.7 Black car, and was modified beyond stock before I bought it. Body: Fresh paint. Much of the car was taken down to bare metal and re-massaged with as limited amounts of filler possible and painted with DUPONT single stage Adriatic Blue. The trunks and engine bay still retain the original black, however, doorjambs were painted blue as well. Camp914 Targa bar vinyl was installed on the car post-paint. All new seals and rubber pieces have been installed on the car from 914rubber or oem Porsche parts. The car leaks a very minimal amount of water only when sitting still. My dad and I installed a roll bar and door bars in the car when we built it. I would call it an "Engman long kit on steroids" as it performs a similar action. Brakes: rebuilt calipers font and rear. Fronts are Volvo 240 series 4 piston calipers, rears are stock 914. Both have fresh pads and rotors. The front rotors are Coleman racing circle track rotors. Easy and cheap to replace. -19mm Master cylinder and adjustable proportioning valve inside the car at the base of the firewall. The car STOPS hard without any drama. Interior: Brand new carpet kit from 914ap.com, including carpeting on the firewall. FatMat was installed on the firewall and on as many surfaces as possible to deaden sound. It has truly made the car comfortable to drive. FatMat was also installed on the targa top underneath a new headliner to remove the acoustic resonance the fiberglass top produced. The dash was recovered in heavy felt 917 style recently. Car will come with Scheel Mann seats. These are by far the single most comfortable high bolster seats I've ever sat in while driving a 914. The gas pedal is a D-Zug RSR pedal, which is also more comfortable on the foot when driving long distances. Gauges were all rebuilt be the late Al Garcia with LED's. They look awesome, and are birght as hell. (Part of me doesn't want to sell the car with these as they were a Highschool graduation present to me from him way back when.. A deal may need to be reached in regards to the gauges) Brand new autometer monster tach matches the speedo and gas gauges, and the custom center console contains an oil pressure, oil temperature, and cylinder head temp gauge. The center console contains two speakers and the car will maintain the SONY Xplod stereo that is in it at the moment. The momo prototipo will not be included in the sale of the car if it gets to that point. I spend long amounts of time in the car, and the interior reflects that in a positive way. It is clean and not overdone, but extremely comfortable. Suspension: The suspension was all rebuilt when I built the car 5 years ago. Delrin rear trailing arm bushings, and elephant racing fronts. Bilstein HD struts all around, and 180lb rear springs with 22mm front TB's up front. Stock sway bar with adjustable downlinks. Wheels: 15x8 and 15x6 fuchs will be what the car is sold with. Both wheels have brand new tires installed on them. Powertrain: The engine is a mag case 2.7 RS spec 6. The cas was shufflepinned, case saved, and brought back to 0-0 on the mains. It has S cams, and 40 IDA carbs. The motor runs awesome and pulls super hard. It's definitely the fastest 914 I've ever driven. Spins to 7200 RPM with ease and sounds great doing it. 964 oil filter console, oil pump, updated chain tensioners, you get the idea. The entire plumbing system was redone in -12 and -16 Stainless braided lines, and the oil tank (factory -6 tank) was refinished and is perfectly cleaned. The motor uses an external cooler up front. It's a Benz diesel cooler with -AN fittings welded on. I have yet to see any oil temperature above 190 sitting in socal traffic on a hot day. The exhaust is the factory -6 heat exchangers. They are in great shape, and the heater works awesome. The heat exchangers are coupled to a Bischoff Stainless muffler. I polished it 2 months ago and it is gaining that wonderful golden/blue color that stainless exhaust systems get. Gearbox will be a fresh side-shift box, with brand new CV joints, through new FAG wheel bearings. I suppose that's mostly it for now.. I'll try to drum up as many pictures as possible of specific parts.. Right now, I feel like $26,500 would be where the value of the car sits.. If I'm way out of line on this, please understand this is just a feeler add and I'm not set to sell it, but I would appreciate constructive criticism on the value of the car. Any questions, send me a PM. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm8.staticflickr.com-9714-1382990567.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm4.staticflickr.com-9714-1382990568.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm3.staticflickr.com-9714-1382990568.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm8.staticflickr.com-9714-1382990569.4.jpg) I'll have more photos this evening once I brave the weather and walk out to the parking structure... Still up for sale? When is the next Irvine Coffee and Cars and will you be there? |
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