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Roller chassis value, for insurance valuation |
rhodyguy |
Nov 13 2013, 07:27 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
but its all about the averages right? so say there's 5 similar cars. do the high and the low get tossed and the average is based on the remaining 3?
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SLITS |
Nov 13 2013, 07:45 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
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pete-stevers |
Nov 13 2013, 10:30 AM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Here is the write up on the car
5 lug conversion with 911 alloy front cross member w bilsteins Goodrich G force 205x55x16 tires with less than 2500 miles on them 911 Carrera front brakes 914-6 rear calipers ventilated disc all around 180 lb springs with KYB rear shocks front sway bar with reinforced mount plates Engine is a 1989 3.2 with less than 60 k miles Largest Setrab oil cooler in front trunk with fan (106 degree Texas day in traffic and oil temp below 185) battery in rear trunk 4 refinished Fusch 6x16 wheels with a fifth one as a spare in trunk crank-fire edis ignition with Megasquirt II ECM high impedance injectors fuel pressure regulator with gauge Kennedy adapter plate, flywheel and stage II clutch 914-6 body reinforcement panels installed All rust repaired with restoration design sheet metal epoxy primed and rhino undercoated after sandblasting New windshield with updated weather seal dual exhaust with custom mufflers seats recovered and nos unblemished dash pad innovate AFR , oil temp and pressure gauges Wide band O2 sensor Turbo tie rods poly bushings in suspension 19mm master cylinder on brakes Paint is an ok 20 footer If you know 914s you will see all the hard work is done. went to two PCA DEs at Texas world speedway and it is an amazing little track car. The instructors were lining up to ride in it. Like all 914s, stock or modified, this is NOT a car for the mechanically challenged, unless you have plenty of disposable income to pay the oh so hard to find 914 mechanic. Clear Texas title, show up with cash and drive it home. |
rick 918-S |
Nov 13 2013, 10:37 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,473 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
but its all about the averages right? so say there's 5 similar cars. do the high and the low get tossed and the average is based on the remaining 3? When I was doing appraisals for insurance carriers I would take the top three as long as they were like, kind and quality. Not all appraisers are like minded. This means to me...not a factory 6 but a conversion, flared car leaning to steel as they are much more work to install. But sometimes you can't always find good comps. Now, as I have stated before. You absolutely need to get your own comps before the appraiser arrives. All the guys I worked with over the years knew nothing about cars. Just college geeks (sometimes barely an AA) that were trained to use a program and close files. Do not let the guy leave without your paper work or at least a full on discussion. Most appraisers will be stand offish but nice. Once they log into their computer and enter the numbers they are stuck as the information is automated and the report to the company with a low value is hard to call back. It's not that the appraisers are bad guys. I used to be one. It's their lack on knowledge about classic cars and values and the fact that their estimating and valuation system is not designed for classic cars. Do your own homework or suffer the consequences. |
boxstr |
Nov 13 2013, 11:43 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I sold a steel flared no engine,roller for $8500 everything thing else was there. Also sold a few steel flared drivers, between $16500 and $32000.
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pete-stevers |
Nov 13 2013, 07:52 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks Craig, could you post pictures and write ups of each please...
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shoguneagle |
Nov 14 2013, 10:07 PM
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shoguneagle Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 3-January 03 From: CA, OR, AZ (CAZOR); New Mexico Member No.: 84 Region Association: Northern California |
I am very sorry to hear about your fire loss. The feelings are the same as a theft loss only probably worse. I really hope you get the value out of your car since it was in such "primo" shape.
I was looking at the pictures and there seems to be a good possibility that it could be saved, at least judging from the right front side angle. I do not see any warpage, no melted tires, etc. I know the strength of the metal may be affected but the heat of the fire indicates just burning surfaces, etc. I really would like to see any 914 such as yours returned to the street restored. Hope this is the case. Steve |
rick 918-S |
Nov 16 2013, 09:43 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,473 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I am very sorry to hear about your fire loss. The feelings are the same as a theft loss only probably worse. I really hope you get the value out of your car since it was in such "primo" shape. I was looking at the pictures and there seems to be a good possibility that it could be saved, at least judging from the right front side angle. I do not see any warpage, no melted tires, etc. I know the strength of the metal may be affected but the heat of the fire indicates just burning surfaces, etc. I really would like to see any 914 such as yours returned to the street restored. Hope this is the case. Steve Toast. Ever try to remove melted plastic from scorched metel? Things like the clutch tube with melted nylon inside of it. Every seam exposed to heat then water is now on it's way to rusting. The only possibility would be to dip it in acid then dip E-Coat it. This would still not correct any warpage caused by the heat and flames. If it were a factory 6 shell I would consider it. Cut off the flares, sand blast and prime them and get a new shell. |
pete-stevers |
Nov 17 2013, 10:51 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I am very sorry to hear about your fire loss. The feelings are the same as a theft loss only probably worse. I really hope you get the value out of your car since it was in such "primo" shape. I was looking at the pictures and there seems to be a good possibility that it could be saved, at least judging from the right front side angle. I do not see any warpage, no melted tires, etc. I know the strength of the metal may be affected but the heat of the fire indicates just burning surfaces, etc. I really would like to see any 914 such as yours returned to the street restored. Hope this is the case. Steve Toast. Ever try to remove melted plastic from scorched metel? Things like the clutch tube with melted nylon inside of it. Every seam exposed to heat then water is now on it's way to rusting. The only possibility would be to dip it in acid then dip E-Coat it. This would still not correct any warpage caused by the heat and flames. If it were a factory 6 shell I would consider it. Cut off the flares, sand blast and prime them and get a new shell. That wa my thought as well Rick... But the heat was not to high in this area of the fire.. which could be the tubs saving grace |
pete-stevers |
Nov 19 2013, 09:30 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Bump
Please post/pm me any 9146 gt clones you have bought or sold in the last couple of yrs |
porbmw |
Nov 20 2013, 05:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 10-September 08 From: Vancouver, B.C. Member No.: 9,534 Region Association: None |
Please if you have bought or sold a 914-6 gt clone in the last couple of yrs...please let me know by pm or posting...I need as many "like" cars for insurance purposes... Hi guys...My 914 burnt in a fire/ and I am looking for some examples of what a car like this has sold for in the past year or two, w/o motor and tranny or one with a tranny and 3.0 six installed My chassis has 16x7, 8s es 100s one season left sc front suspension billy shocks, adjustable rear, 180 springs pmb built calipers front pmb spaced rear calipers drilled rotors 19 master foot well sub mp3 player/ amp and head unit mint orig interior fan belt cut out orig oil tank, filler and console zero rust on body AA steel flares jwest shifter glass front rear bumpers gt style had fresh paint 3.0 tach 69 911 rear hubs rj engine mount cis fuel pump External front mounted cooler mocal thermostat turbo tie rods yellow fogs momo wheel and hub and tons and tons of sentimental value That REALLY hurts...sorry to see it. Have been dealing with ICBC in last few months re 74 1.8 that I dissassembled, fixed up, reassembled for my daughter...who promptly pronged the front right front . ICBC was going to write it off....a no accident car, literally no rust, original in many ways, and much money spent on refurbishing, repaint etc...to be as close to original without going stupid. ICBC ended up getting it appraised...$11.5K....but still not resolving issues. Good luck with it, don't know if this helps, as the 2 cars are entirely different, but both nice. Paul |
euro911 |
Nov 20 2013, 06:08 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,851 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
A little OT, but did the fire start in the car, or elsewhere in the garage?
Sorry to see this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
pete-stevers |
Nov 22 2013, 07:08 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
the fire started in the shop with contact cement applied for carpet install , and a spark from a soddering lit it up, no rear wheels on the car, and the electric door shut, only one half bucket of water and he coudn't find the extinguisher...
by that time the breakers had kicked and the only light he had was the fire itself, he is lucky back door was not locked, and the window bars had not been put back in since renos, or we would be looking at pealing him off the cement |
patrick3000 |
Nov 23 2013, 09:02 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 19-July 06 From: Maryland Member No.: 6,468 |
Sorry for your loss!
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i146.photobucket.com-6468-1385218962.1.jpg) 1970 - 6 conversion 28K 10/2011 1988 911 3.2 Steel factory flares 15x8 Fuchs SC front suspension Six dash 901 box w/ intermediate plate and LSD Fiberglass hood, trunk and bumpers 44 turbo calipers External front oil cooler GT engine lid |
pete-stevers |
Nov 23 2013, 09:28 AM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
thank you!!
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pete-stevers |
Nov 24 2013, 09:57 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
no other GTs??
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VegasRacer |
Nov 25 2013, 12:44 AM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,523 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None |
Mountain 914's for sale ad from a few years ago. I don't know what happened with this nice car.
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