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901 trannsmission and 1st gear, Did Porsche ever document issues? |
boxsterfan |
Nov 14 2013, 10:19 AM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
It can be difficult to get into first gear sometimes when coming to a stop. Even if you clutch cable is adjusted properly, the "technology" for the day and age just was what it was (or is what it is in present tense).
Did Porsche or VW ever document the issue officially? For example, releasing a service bulletin that says something like "come to complete stop to get into first gear without crunching the gears"? Curious... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
Rand |
Nov 14 2013, 10:22 AM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Sounds like you might need a new synchro.
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boxsterfan |
Nov 14 2013, 10:31 AM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Sounds like you might need a new synchro. I'm not experiencing a specific problem getting into 1st gear. Actually, i adjusted my clutch cable last weekend after reading here that one common issue with getting into first can be a simple mis-adjustment. My question is more generic in the terms of did Porsche ever release any information or service bulletiins about it? Or did Car and Driver (or other trade rag) review it and mention it? |
monkeyboy |
Nov 14 2013, 10:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 8-June 08 From: Los Angeles, Ca Member No.: 9,147 Region Association: None |
I honestly don't think it was an issue 40 years ago. Plus, it was regular to have a non syncro first gear back then. People were used to it.
I think it's an issue of age and wear at this point. |
Steve |
Nov 14 2013, 10:57 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,589 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
You should be able to shift into first from a roll. If you can't it's either a bad synchro or a clutch adjustment. The only thing I have seen from Porsche regarding the trans is the amount of torque it supports. When the engines went above a specific torque they switched to the 915 and then to the G50.
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bulitt |
Nov 14 2013, 11:04 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
Cars back then were designed with "planned obsolescence"- limited useful life, so they would have to be replaced after a certain time. Many American cars rusted badly. The recalls/service bulletins, lemon laws you see today have evolved over the last 40 yrs.
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brant |
Nov 14 2013, 11:30 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,625 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
And it's not always a new synchro.
That can be a short sighted label for the slider (not just synchro) that is worn out |
JawjaPorsche |
Nov 14 2013, 11:47 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
I heard if you shift it into second then first, sometimes it is easier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Sawfish |
Nov 14 2013, 12:00 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 28-January 09 From: San Diego Member No.: 9,990 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I heard if you shift it into second then first, sometimes it is easier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) +1 Above |
thelogo |
Nov 14 2013, 02:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
It can be difficult to get into first gear sometimes when coming to a stop. Even if you clutch cable is adjusted properly, the "technology" for the day and age just was what it was (or is what it is in present tense). Did Porsche or VW ever document the issue officially? For example, releasing a service bulletin that says something like "come to complete stop to get into first gear without crunching the gears"? Curious... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) First gear ???? I try not to use it , ever Just don't find it nessacary in a 914 And when I do use it , up steep hill , exiting my driveway ,, I never abuse it with fast starts or rapid acceleration And to be honest I never downshift to any gear other then 5 th to 4 th I mean what is the point of shifting to 1st when already rolling , just go to 2nd |
Dr Evil |
Nov 14 2013, 10:06 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,000 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
It is a known fact that 1st is not supposed to be down shifted into while rolling. It gives you no benefit and wears out expensive parts. If it is grinding, and all external stuff has been done correctly, then you can bet that people had worn out 1st by down shifting into it.
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Trekkor |
Nov 14 2013, 10:16 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I use a "C" first gear and downshift into it at will!
It's good to 45mph, so downshifting into first at 30 mph is pretty cool on the a/x course. KT |
Dr Evil |
Nov 14 2013, 10:20 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,000 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
a C is not an A which is stock. Once you alter the gearing, the whole reason the factory trained not to down shift into 1st is changed.
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Trekkor |
Nov 14 2013, 10:24 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I wanted a "D".
KT |
Dr Evil |
Nov 14 2013, 10:33 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,000 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
And, this is relevant why? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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Trekkor |
Nov 14 2013, 10:52 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Because instead of keeping an unusable 1st gear, people should locate and install a "C" or "D" first gear.
I found mine for $100. KT |
Dr Evil |
Nov 14 2013, 10:56 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,000 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Sure, C and above are plentiful at $100. (that is sarcasm, I have never seen this and you got lucky. Please prove me wrong).
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Trekkor |
Nov 14 2013, 11:00 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I always get the cool deals!
That's why I have a C-F-Ka-S-X gearbox behind a 2.6 SIX with a 7300 redline. What's the normal price for a "C" or "D" gear set? $4-500, right? KT This post has been edited by Trekkor: Nov 14 2013, 11:00 PM |
Trekkor |
Nov 14 2013, 11:02 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Back on topic, my 1st gear does not engage consistently at a stand still.
Car needs to be moving. Why is this? KT |
messix |
Nov 14 2013, 11:16 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Back on topic, my 1st gear does not engage consistently at a stand still. Car needs to be moving. Why is this? KT it hates you because you treat it like a cheap whore! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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