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Case Stud Sealant? |
NCRider |
Nov 18 2013, 08:23 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 5-June 10 From: Apex NC Member No.: 11,809 Region Association: South East States |
Hi Guys getting back on my project after a long delay. Im putting my cylinder studs in, do I need to use any sealant on the ones that are threaded thru the case?
Thanks Jeff |
ConeDodger |
Nov 18 2013, 08:28 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,585 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Yes, Curel T I think...
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NCRider |
Nov 18 2013, 08:46 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 5-June 10 From: Apex NC Member No.: 11,809 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks ConeDodger, I just so happen to have some.
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ConeDodger |
Nov 18 2013, 09:18 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,585 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
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NCRider |
Nov 18 2013, 09:26 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 5-June 10 From: Apex NC Member No.: 11,809 Region Association: South East States |
I'm looking at my sealants and Curl T is green. The more I look at this I think Loctite 565 would be a better choice and maybe what you are thinking of because it is white. It also doesn't get hard and is a thread sealant.
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cary |
Nov 19 2013, 12:21 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
When I did mine, using Jake's high school video.
It was white, but it was Permatex. The little bottle with the brush inside. |
yeahmag |
Nov 19 2013, 11:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,421 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California |
Curil T is what Jake was using for that last I read his site. His video is very old now and he has updated some of his recommended sealants (which you can also get from his store). Curil K2 is used for the case halves while you are in there. These (and many others) are what I used on my motors and they work well.
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Mark Henry |
Nov 19 2013, 12:25 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I've used Curil T on 911 engines...not overly impressed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Java2570 |
Nov 19 2013, 02:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 649 Joined: 7-May 11 From: Fishers, IN Member No.: 13,035 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I used Loctite 565 on my case thru bolts....that's what was recommended in the list of sealants
I got from Jake's Type 4 store at the time. I think Permatex Aviation would still be good.... I wouldn't use Curil T on that area but the Curil K2 did do great for case sealing. |
NCRider |
Nov 20 2013, 09:34 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 5-June 10 From: Apex NC Member No.: 11,809 Region Association: South East States |
My question is for the cylinder studs specifically. Is loctite or some sealant to be used. Several of those studs hole are thru to the internals of the case and others are blind holes.
Jeff |
yeahmag |
Nov 20 2013, 11:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,421 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California |
I used the Loctite (565 I think) there. I also used it on the rocker studs that go through the head. The Curil T was used on the case and head washers to act as a gasket.
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0396 |
Nov 20 2013, 11:07 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
I used the 574...pink stuff that I had laying around that Porsche used in the past. I have yet to see how well it holds up...good I hope on my part. Oh and some curl t on the case bolts below the big washer on the side of the case.
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Mark Henry |
Nov 20 2013, 11:27 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I've used loctite thread locker and 565 without issue on studs.
I've also used the loctite purple anaerobic "replace a gasket" flange sealant (I forget the number.... 518 maybe?) it works as well. |
jeffdon |
Nov 20 2013, 12:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
I used Teflon pipe sealant compound. Seems to work.
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NCRider |
Nov 20 2013, 05:18 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 5-June 10 From: Apex NC Member No.: 11,809 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks guys, I think Im going to use the loctite 565 that I have. It should work fine.
Jeff |
Bulldog9 |
Nov 20 2013, 08:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 21-August 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,283 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Is there a list of what sealants we need to use and where?
Case - Thru bolts/case studs - Case to cyls/spacers - Cyls to heads - |
NCRider |
Nov 21 2013, 05:41 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 5-June 10 From: Apex NC Member No.: 11,809 Region Association: South East States |
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Bulldog9 |
Nov 21 2013, 09:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 21-August 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,283 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
DUDE..... that is beautiful...... I'm about 2 weeks from this, dropping my crank assembly off to my mechanic tomorrow for balancing. And thanks for the list! I went to his site, but seems he no longer has the kit for sale. |
NCRider |
Nov 21 2013, 08:18 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 5-June 10 From: Apex NC Member No.: 11,809 Region Association: South East States |
Recommended Sealants and their uses:
Curil K-2 Case haves and between cylinders/shims and case. Loctite 565 Push rod tubes, case thru bolts, galley plugs and threaded fittings Curil T use to seal the 4 lower head washers. The ones inside the head Loctite 518 can be used instead of a paper gasket where the gasket isn't maintaining a clearance. Oil pump, camshaft plug |
Bulldog9 |
Nov 22 2013, 08:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 21-August 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,283 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Recommended Sealants and their uses: Curil K-2 Case haves and between cylinders/shims and case. Loctite 565 Push rod tubes, case thru bolts, galley plugs and threaded fittings Curil T use to seal the 4 lower head washers. The ones inside the head Loctite 518 can be used instead of a paper gasket where the gasket isn't maintaining a clearance. Oil pump, camshaft plug Thanks, is very helpful. Never heard of Curil, was planning on Yamabond (used it on many motorcycle engines) or Permatex Aviation. OK, so you do use something on the pushrod tubes. I am using Viton seals on both sides, assumed just a finger wipe of oil, but will use the sealant Suprised to see different sealant used for the cam plug, expected would be the same as the case sealant. Wont the two react to each other where they overlap? Also, any preference on which threadlocker to use on general assembly? This motor is hurting my brain............. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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