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> Purchase price vs. resale price, possibly shooting ourselves in the foot?
jwalters
post Dec 27 2004, 01:35 PM
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I am sure I am going to get much banter, good, bad, and ugly for this post. But I just have to bring this up.

It is about all the talk I read about appropriate purchase prices of any teener.

It seems as though a great multitude of people are hell bent that a teener should never cost anybody more than maybe 2k.

Yet the parts for this car is easily on par with a full-on Porsche 911,928, etc. Particularly the engine--it is a vw unit developed ( in conjunction with Porsche??)--I could easily rebuild a flat six for the same if not much less than the cost of a higher power / reliable IV model.

We as a group are spending an absurd amount of time and greenbacks to get our cars to our personal level--yet the consensus I read is that after all this is done the cars are worth absolutely s*#t compared to the comparables. In my humble opinion this needs to stop, I see much foot shooting going on here. Do we as a group really want to invest all of the above and then by our own methods and verbalizations intentially keep the cars ...ahem..."CHEAP"?

Now do not get me wrong--I am all about "affordable" , but would rather see "affordable" vs. CHEAP and LESS than it could / should be.

I have an newer issue of "Excellance" and they are reporting the 914's are on the rise--We as a group have it within our power to change this trend for the worse if carefull thought is not applied to what is being said, sold, and bought.

I do not want to pump 10k into my car from rustoration, upgrades, only to only get maybe 2k for it if I was in the need.

I realize that right now I would be hard pressed to get what only I have in it, not to include my personal labor hours, which so far has exceeded 500 easily at a shop rate of $55.00 an hour---the OTHER Porsches do tho...............

I see too many nice cars for sale and people asking what they are worth and then saying that same nice car that is in good repair should only be " $900.00,,Tops" This is not going to cut it--we should be following the examples as set out in our newsstand advocate--"Excellance"

Just think about this for a moment before spouting off------I see much shooting of the feet in here--lets get smarter--and help the market adjust our beloved to the affordable level--not the out of reach level--We need parts that are of high quality, yet not priced exorbitantly--do you want to sell 10 at a 100.00, or 1000 at 50.00?? For every person that can afford a 10k type IV motor, there are possibly hundreds if not thousands who cannot. Just not dirt cheap to begin with an excellant example and then pour another thousands into it to make it our own and then get nothing for the fruits of our labor...........

It makes me sick to read about some poor schmo that bought a 2.5k rebuild cause that is what he could afford, and then have nothing but problems with it--then get berated about: " Told you so"..when the type 1 crowd can have 200+ hp for LESS THAN 3K----------I might just put a type 1 in mine and save 7k, or more--

Just as an example: For the time and money I am putting into my car--I could have easily purchased a late 70's-early 80's 911, rebuilt the motor, put good wheels and tires on it--and probably a minor interior / exterior upgrade--and easily sell it for more than I bought it / upgraded it for--------

I want to thank all of you that manufacture worthwhile products AND also price them accordingly---some others out there could possibly do some homework----We need to help the market as a whole with resale values----3000 members (almost) in a small community as the 914 is, is strong JEDI......yes, we are strong.........

If I have offended anybody I do not apologize--this is a forum for adult lively discussion--I would ask no less from anybody else. This post is NOT to any one person(s)--it is just a discussion.

But if things do not begin to change before I dump my talents and cash into this--I will go the 911 route


Point is: " I should not put 10k plus into my car and then expect to get for it what I am reading in here!, which is crap.........."
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jwalters   Purchase price vs. resale price   Dec 27 2004, 01:35 PM
brant   I'm not trying to start a flame war either... ...   Dec 27 2004, 01:39 PM
jwalters     Dec 27 2004, 01:44 PM
SirAndy     Dec 27 2004, 01:48 PM
brant   but I duth protest: a rebuild -6 with 180hp will ...   Dec 27 2004, 01:49 PM
jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Dec 27 2004, 01:54 PM
jwalters   Shortly ago I figured up what I will have in my te...   Dec 27 2004, 02:02 PM
rdauenhauer   The flaw in your argument is If your buying then f...   Dec 27 2004, 02:28 PM
JOHNMAN   I know what you mean about return on investment wi...   Dec 27 2004, 02:28 PM
synthesisdv   I don't know many people that make money fixin...   Dec 27 2004, 02:28 PM
jim912928   I agree with jwalters....I believe our cars are ga...   Dec 27 2004, 02:33 PM
Root_Werks   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Dec 27 2004, 03:08 PM
aircooledboy   Sorry bud. I think you are kiddin' yourself if...   Dec 27 2004, 03:12 PM
pete-stevers   What the heck are you guys talking about??? If the...   Dec 27 2004, 03:15 PM
MarkG   Sold my 308 Ferrari this summer. Bought a '76 ...   Dec 27 2004, 03:17 PM
jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Dec 27 2004, 03:20 PM
brant   Yeah, I agree with what chris said. I sold an SC ...   Dec 27 2004, 03:23 PM
Howard   ...   Dec 27 2004, 03:39 PM
jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Dec 27 2004, 03:44 PM
tracks914   I think, depending on your skill level, you should...   Dec 27 2004, 03:45 PM
Root_Werks   I would say I am only into mine for around $7...   Dec 27 2004, 03:52 PM
jwalters     Dec 27 2004, 03:54 PM
Aaron Cox   i can sum it up in a sentence or two.... "Its a l...   Dec 27 2004, 04:03 PM
jwalters   ...   Dec 27 2004, 04:17 PM
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jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Dec 27 2004, 04:29 PM
Root_Werks   ...   Dec 27 2004, 04:29 PM
Cloudbuster   ...   Dec 27 2004, 04:31 PM
jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Dec 27 2004, 04:46 PM
jwalters   ...   Dec 27 2004, 04:49 PM
Hi_Fi_Guy   1. PERCEPTION: The days of the 914 being, "the poo...   Dec 27 2004, 05:05 PM
jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Dec 27 2004, 05:10 PM
Steve Thacker   The market price for a car is decided by people li...   Dec 27 2004, 05:15 PM
jwalters     Dec 27 2004, 06:39 PM
brant  
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jd74914   Sorry to disagree, but you can make money on cars....   Dec 27 2004, 08:35 PM
jd74914   Above was the father's point of view, now the ...   Dec 27 2004, 08:37 PM
Brando   I see the only ways we can erally increase the val...   Dec 27 2004, 08:43 PM
rick 918-S   We're our own worse enemy. Every time someone ...   Dec 27 2004, 08:51 PM
neo914-6  
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vortrex   914's are horribly overpriced right now and an...   Dec 27 2004, 08:53 PM
carambola   for one day and one day only, i will take away tha...   Dec 27 2004, 09:06 PM
RAR   Most objects--antiques, furniture, cars, etc. go t...   Dec 27 2004, 09:07 PM
Rhodes71/914   I bought my 914 because: I like working on car...   Dec 27 2004, 09:14 PM
Howard   Pretty basic, but in this free economy (except for...   Dec 27 2004, 10:27 PM
jim912928   Rick has a very good point. I can tell you that w...   Dec 27 2004, 10:34 PM
curtis   <...   Dec 27 2004, 10:57 PM
trekkor   Here's my take. If it's a good deal to yo...   Dec 28 2004, 12:01 AM
balthazar   Someone said we represent only 1% of the total dem...   Dec 28 2004, 02:29 AM
bjorn jacobson   I think there are some valid points to this argume...   Dec 28 2004, 03:05 AM
scruz914     Dec 28 2004, 07:20 AM
jwalters   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Dec 28 2004, 08:14 AM
KaptKaos   Why I like my 73 1.7 1) I always liked the simpli...   Dec 28 2004, 11:54 AM
Root_Werks   Anybody go to the 50th Porsche B-Day and LS? I di...   Dec 28 2004, 12:03 PM
jwalters   O/T http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Dec 28 2004, 12:12 PM
Root_Werks   I will be helping someone do a 3.0 conversion in 2...   Dec 28 2004, 12:23 PM


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