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> Paul Walker of Fast and Furious dead today
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post Dec 2 2013, 10:51 AM
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Saw a post today that the power steering was leaking and that might contributed to the crash. Can you say Lawsuit!
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It's not likely to be a leaking steering unit as the CGT just had an full service at GMG in Santa Ann Calif. But based on postings on other sites, once the steering fluid hits an hot object...watch out. Some 996s have gone that route..recall / service bulletin in early 2005/2006 on that.



There weren't any recalls or bulletins that I remember.
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post Dec 2 2013, 10:59 AM
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New report on CNN says they are investigating a possible drag race or another car that swerved in front of them.

I have a friend who bought a CGT new. Called me and asked me if I wanted to go for a ride without telling me he bought it. I thought he meant on the bikes so I drove over on the BMW. He opened the garage and there was his new toy. I have seen him take off in the car several times without uncontrollable drama. He is an exceptional driver but I would expect so was Roger Roda. I have another friend, Steven Childs, who also bought one new. His 'broke' something in the suspension and went off into a field through a fence. Porsche came and got it and reimbursed him.

Friend number 1 said today that he knows nothing about a recall...
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post Dec 2 2013, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(Woody @ Dec 2 2013, 08:51 AM) *

QUOTE(396 @ Dec 2 2013, 08:47 AM) *

QUOTE(Van914 @ Dec 2 2013, 06:18 AM) *

Saw a post today that the power steering was leaking and that might contributed to the crash. Can you say Lawsuit!
Van


It's not likely to be a leaking steering unit as the CGT just had an full service at GMG in Santa Ann Calif. But based on postings on other sites, once the steering fluid hits an hot object...watch out. Some 996s have gone that route..recall / service bulletin in early 2005/2006 on that.



There weren't any recalls or bulletins that I remember.



Bulletions came out for the 996. Posting above mentioned leaking power steering fluid.. and I posted that that stuff can cause the car to go up in smoke real fast.
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post Dec 2 2013, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(396 @ Dec 2 2013, 11:07 AM) *

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Saw a post today that the power steering was leaking and that might contributed to the crash. Can you say Lawsuit!
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It's not likely to be a leaking steering unit as the CGT just had an full service at GMG in Santa Ann Calif. But based on postings on other sites, once the steering fluid hits an hot object...watch out. Some 996s have gone that route..recall / service bulletin in early 2005/2006 on that.



There weren't any recalls or bulletins that I remember.



Bulletions came out for the 996. Posting above mentioned leaking power steering fluid.. and I posted that that stuff can cause the car to go up in smoke real fast.

The only thing coming up for a 996 is the expansion tank may leak from the o-rings on cars built before 2002 but it was a bullitin, not a recall. Yes the Pentosin power steering fluid, like most any fluid, will ignite if it touches something extremely hot like an exhaust manifold. I have only seen problems with this on 986 boxsters when one of the lines is routed incorrectly or aftermarket headers are used. Aftermarket headers usually can get pretty close to the lines.
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post Dec 2 2013, 03:11 PM
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Who is Paul Walker and why would anyone care?
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Didn't know who he was either. Have never seen any of his work. Never heard of him

And don't know if he was an asshat or a down to earth, good guy.

But his family will care....as will his friends.

I am sure there are people who will have suffered a very deep loss.

And then there are those who followed him, and think they know him.

But for some of us, apart from it being a spectacular wreck, we might think of all the very stupid things we have done, at times, and escaped unscathed (or at least survived to tell and b.s. about it)....and be thankful
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post Dec 2 2013, 04:22 PM
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I actually enjoy those Fast and Furious movies as a bit of a guilty pleasure. I have friends that work in movies in New Orleans that have had the chance to meet Paul Walker and they said he was a really great guy

RIP
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post Dec 2 2013, 05:16 PM
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I actually enjoy those Fast and Furious movies as a bit of a guilty pleasure. I have friends that work in movies in New Orleans that have had the chance to meet Paul Walker and they said he was a really great guy

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) He would go to the weekend car get-togethers once in a while. He was one of us... Didn't act like he was special at all.

There is a story going around that he was in a jewelry store and overheard a guy in uniform who was trying to buy a ring for his fiance. The guy was visibly anxious because he didn't know rings cost that much. Paul Walker approached the sales lady and paid $10K for their ring purchase. The military couple didn't know or recognize him and the sales lady told them to watch the Fast and Furious movies. He didn't even stick around for a thank you. Just told the sales lady to thank the guy for his service.

Confirmed: From CNN

There are tales of Walker's incredible generosity.
CNN confirmed one story from a decade ago when Walker noticed a young U.S. soldier shopping with his fiancee for a wedding ring in a Santa Barbara jewelry store.
"The groom was just back from duty in Iraq, and he was going to be deployed again soon and wanted to buy a wedding ring, but he said he just could not afford it," saleswoman Irene King told CNN. "I don't think the soldier realized how expensive those rings are, about $10,000."
The couple apparently did not know who Walker was, King said.
"Walker called the manager over and said, 'Put that girl's ring on my tab,'" she said. "Walker left all his billing info, and it was a done deal. The couple was stunned. She was thrilled and could not believe someone did this."
King called it "the most generous thing I have ever seen."
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post Dec 2 2013, 05:40 PM
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It seems that everyone that knew or had interactions with him had only nice things to say about him as a person. Regardless of what caused the crash, the outcome for these two remains the same, and the pictures show how intense the fire was.

Have fun, but be careful out there!
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post Dec 2 2013, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(Van914 @ Dec 2 2013, 09:18 AM) *

Saw a post today that the power steering was leaking and that might contributed to the crash. Can you say Lawsuit!
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Who are you going to Sue? There were 5 Owners of the Car before Walker! You are not going to win a Suit against Porsche for a Leak on a car that is 6 Years old.
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post Dec 2 2013, 06:15 PM
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Well this gets stranger and stranger. Appears they were traveling at less than 45mph when everything went wrong. Doesn't change anything, other than the story.

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post Dec 2 2013, 06:26 PM
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Interesting that Leno took down his Carrera GT spin out video off of his "Leno's Garage" web site. Leno was very lucky that he didn't hit the wall at that speed.
RIP Paul and Roger!! I am not familiar with Roger, but I loved Paul's movies and charity work.


Didn't Leno spin his out something like 3 times before he figured out?
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post Dec 2 2013, 06:46 PM
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Well this gets stranger and stranger. Appears they were traveling at less than 45mph when everything went wrong. Doesn't change anything, other than the story.

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Someone heard a tire blow out prior to the crash and start of the fire.
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post Dec 2 2013, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(rohar @ Dec 2 2013, 07:15 PM) *

Well this gets stranger and stranger. Appears they were traveling at less than 45mph when everything went wrong. Doesn't change anything, other than the story.

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I dunno. That car looks like it almost broke in two.

All that from a sub-45mph impact? Seems very unlikely, no?

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post Dec 2 2013, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Dec 2 2013, 04:46 PM) *

QUOTE(rohar @ Dec 2 2013, 04:15 PM) *

Well this gets stranger and stranger. Appears they were traveling at less than 45mph when everything went wrong. Doesn't change anything, other than the story.

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Someone heard a tire blow out prior to the crash and start of the fire.


Yeah, could well have been. A lot of us have been on any number of surfaces at speed (preferably on the track). Think about the transition between an off camber sweeper and a straight away. Worse, think about that spot just before the transition, when you're throwing the car's CG all over hell, and something normally simple happens. Blown tire, strut valve failure, etc. You get the idea. Driving around on a Sunday drive with a VW rabbit and this isn't such a problem. In this car? Weight's all in the wrong spot to transition to the straight, and bam, huge weight shift. Even at 45. You can't recover it by adding throttle to let the butt out because a half inch of throttle is 200ft/lbs of torque. Braking is probably a bad idea. I'm not saying it can't be handled, but odds are this won't end well.
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QUOTE(MDG @ Dec 2 2013, 04:53 PM) *

QUOTE(rohar @ Dec 2 2013, 07:15 PM) *

Well this gets stranger and stranger. Appears they were traveling at less than 45mph when everything went wrong. Doesn't change anything, other than the story.

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I dunno. That car looks like it almost broke in two.

All that from a sub-45mph impact? Seems very unlikely, no?


It's CF, it's not broken, it's melted.
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post Dec 2 2013, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Dec 2 2013, 04:06 PM) *

QUOTE(Van914 @ Dec 2 2013, 09:18 AM) *

Saw a post today that the power steering was leaking and that might contributed to the crash. Can you say Lawsuit!
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Who are you going to Sue? There were 5 Owners of the Car before Walker! You are not going to win a Suit against Porsche for a Leak on a car that is 6 Years old.


Oh? Stranger things have happened. Lawsuits don't behave like real life.

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I dunno. That car looks like it almost broke in two.

All that from a sub-45mph impact? Seems very unlikely, no?


It's CF, it's not broken, it's melted.


I get that. But that car looks like it suffered catastrophic damage before it burnt.

It appears there was a passenger door impact that practically bent the car two. No doubt it happened when it ripped that light standard out of the ground before slamming into those trees - trees which clearly appear to now be . . leaning.

I guess stranger things have happened. But all that carnage from 40 or so mph?
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post Dec 2 2013, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(rohar @ Dec 2 2013, 07:15 PM) *

Well this gets stranger and stranger. Appears they were traveling at less than 45mph when everything went wrong. Doesn't change anything, other than the story.

Link


I'm calling BS on that - at 40-45mph, you don't knock over a Light Pole, a Tree, rip the Car in half & (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif)
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QUOTE(MDG @ Dec 2 2013, 05:28 PM) *

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QUOTE(MDG @ Dec 2 2013, 04:53 PM) *


I dunno. That car looks like it almost broke in two.

All that from a sub-45mph impact? Seems very unlikely, no?


It's CF, it's not broken, it's melted.


I get that. But that car looks like it suffered catastrophic damage before it burnt.

It appears there was a passenger door impact that practically bent the car two. No doubt it happened when it ripped that light standard out of the ground before slamming into those trees - trees which clearly appear to now be . . leaning.

I guess stranger things have happened. But all that carnage from 40 or so mph?


Most of the more popular images being distributed make it look like that. It's the angle of the pic. It makes it look different than it is.

I hate posting pics of cars with dead people in them, because I think it's probably uncouth, but just because we're having this discussion, a link to a different angle:

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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Dec 2 2013, 08:06 PM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ Dec 2 2013, 04:06 PM) *

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Saw a post today that the power steering was leaking and that might contributed to the crash. Can you say Lawsuit!
Van


Who are you going to Sue? There were 5 Owners of the Car before Walker! You are not going to win a Suit against Porsche for a Leak on a car that is 6 Years old.


Oh? Stranger things have happened. Lawsuits don't behave like real life.

The Cap'n


You don't have to tell me that twice - I was once Married to a Bitch, I mean Lawyer
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