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Porsche 914 Racecar help, looking to find out history about a race car |
truckiegreg |
Dec 1 2013, 02:43 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-October 13 From: sheboygan Member No.: 16,575 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I recently bought a 914 race car roller and the seller didn't have much info on it. I though if I post a pic someone may have seen it or knew who the previous owner was. I'm hoping to also track down the logbook.The roll bar is covered in HSR stickers. Any info would be great... greghering@hotmail.com
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carr914 |
Dec 1 2013, 05:19 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,281 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
That's a Car I have never seen - I would check with Speed Werks as their name is on the side of the car
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carr914 |
Dec 1 2013, 05:19 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,281 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
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SirAndy |
Dec 1 2013, 05:57 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,608 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I would check with Speed Werks as their name is on the side of the car As far as i know they're out of business. Their website now goes to a generic parked domain page. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) PS: Oh, and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
jd74914 |
Dec 1 2013, 10:46 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
Welcome!
What's the deal with the bar from main to front hoop on the right side; it looks tweaked? Any more pictures? |
brant |
Dec 1 2013, 11:12 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,617 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Interesting....
The car looks built for PCA club racing A little bit too modified for a lot of vintage clubs. Interesting that it has HSR tech stickers You may want to go through some of the PCA Results to track down the previous owner |
dlestep |
Dec 2 2013, 12:06 AM
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I am smilin'... Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 15-January 08 From: Sunrise Florida Member No.: 8,573 Region Association: South East States |
http://www.racingjunk.com/Vintage/18199829...ce-chassis.html
notice the website gives phone number of seller location is Greensboro, N.C. You may want to contact Black Forest Racing (John Forbes). Maybe someone there may know of the history. |
nolift914 |
Dec 2 2013, 09:44 AM
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Autoxer Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 24-May 09 From: Rockaway Beach NY Member No.: 10,399 Region Association: None |
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truckiegreg |
Dec 2 2013, 07:18 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-October 13 From: sheboygan Member No.: 16,575 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I bought the car from a guy named Jonathan and his email was with renngruppe on it. He just didn't have much info. I contacted HSR and they are checking into it to.the top bars both have a bend in them. The car was deff built by someone who cared about it. Thanks for your help guys
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brant |
Dec 2 2013, 09:50 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,617 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
the gt5s sticker is an old pca class
pca has results online for all of their races |
krazykonrad |
Dec 6 2013, 05:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,124 Joined: 21-February 06 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 5,610 |
The four-bolt hubs most likely mean it started out life as a 4 cyl. Is the ignition on the steering column or to the left of it?
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SirAndy |
Dec 6 2013, 10:10 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,608 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
The four-bolt hubs most likely mean it started out life as a 4 cyl. Is the ignition on the steering column or to the left of it? No holes for a factory oil tank, so no, it is not a original /6 ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
truckiegreg |
Dec 7 2013, 04:35 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-October 13 From: sheboygan Member No.: 16,575 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I believe it was a 4 to start because of the 4 bolt hubs. Being a race car all the interior has been taken out.I got a bunch of 6 parts with it but Its going to be a F prod 4 for scca. The Trans that came with it is a good race 901 with a quaife diff. Its worth what I paid for the car. Hope someone out there has info would love to track down old owner to find a old log book and find some older pics.. The car was deff a different color because when I was stripping the cage there is bright silver paint under the machine grey paint...thanks again all you guys I will post more pics of the progress
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brant |
Dec 7 2013, 05:25 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,617 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'm not sure the SCCA will allow those fenders in F production
Chris will know for sure and I'm not sure about the bumpers either? you may know more about it than I do but the scca was always pretty strict about panels being removed and tube framing. Part of the reason I'm sure that car was built for PCA club racing our vintage club works off of SCCA production rules (old ones) and we had a applicant requesting to come in with a chalon body and denied because it wasn't factory body shape/style what motor mount is installed... it could be that the previous owner pulled the front and rear suspension while they were gutting things and just bolted old stock stuff on? the rotors look pretty stock and rusty compaired to the rest of the chassis |
truckiegreg |
Dec 8 2013, 09:04 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-October 13 From: sheboygan Member No.: 16,575 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Thats a good thought about the suspension swap. Didn't think of that. Im going to contact our local Scca tech guy and see what he thinks about the body. I sure I can find somewhere to Run it..seem like all car clubs want is our money and wont turn a well prepped car down $$
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truckiegreg |
Dec 8 2013, 10:06 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-October 13 From: sheboygan Member No.: 16,575 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Got me thinking the best thing to do if sell off roller and finish off other projects.
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brant |
Dec 8 2013, 11:59 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,617 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
there are great racing places for that car
and those fender flares are -6cylinder GT style (or 916 like the bumper) a great car to drop a -6 into the GT5 class in PCA (or any of the power to weight classes in pca gt) is a great place too. Although their new classification rules make motors pricey for small discplacement air cooled stuff.... the 4cylinder baseline is 90horse power per a liter and the 6 cylinder is 110hp per a litter PCA club racing its way too clean of a start to give up on |
truckiegreg |
Dec 8 2013, 12:36 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-October 13 From: sheboygan Member No.: 16,575 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I agree to good to give up on. I have a few ideas and need to do a bit more research but will be a good car for sure.thanks again for the help
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Racing916 |
Dec 11 2013, 02:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Binghamton, NY Member No.: 2,959 Region Association: North East States |
You might want to reach out to Andy McNeil. I believe he or his father use to own speedwerks and he raced a 914 built there. I don't have his number but I did find him on face book. Maybe you could send him a message with the car pictures.
https://www.facebook.com/andy.mcneil.5 It is a long shot but you never know. There use to be a GT5 pca race car that looked like that but the bottom was green and yellow with the BP sponsor stickers on it. It also raced out of speedwerks. Steve |
vitis |
Dec 25 2013, 10:48 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 31-December 11 From: Clover, Virginia Member No.: 13,952 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You might want to reach out to Andy McNeil. I believe he or his father use to own speedwerks and he raced a 914 built there. I don't have his number but I did find him on face book. Maybe you could send him a message with the car pictures. https://www.facebook.com/andy.mcneil.5 It is a long shot but you never know. There use to be a GT5 pca race car that looked like that but the bottom was green and yellow with the BP sponsor stickers on it. It also raced out of speedwerks. Steve I don't know where Chris is but we have been in SCCA F prod for a few years. The fender flares would be fine for SCCA. The only obvious issues look like the rear floor has been removed and that would need to be replaced. I had a gearbox built by Speedwerks a few years ago and I don't remember seeing this car in the garage. May have been that I overlooked it but usually I pay attention to the 914s. Does this car have camber boxes? I did see a 914 at Speedwerks that used monoballs and I guess they could have painted it Milt McPherson |
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