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PMB Performance - Mike Krieger Build, Sorting out a -6 conversion and going 3.6 |
Eric_Shea |
Dec 7 2013, 11:01 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Hey Gang,
We've been working on this one for a while now and I thought you'd like to follow along. It has a lot of "914" issues to sort through and can be a good piece to show how and why to fix things properly, especially with the value of these cars climbing and the money invested in a car of this quality. Mike came to us last year after finding us here for a PPI. In this case it was a "Post Purchase Inspection". The car was sold as a rust free (yes, enter your comments here) 3.2 six conversion. It turns out it was anything but. Regardless, Mike was in for the long haul and, he was determined to do things properly. He expressed interest in making the car a wide-body and fixing what needed to be fixed at the time. Off the tub went to be stripped and prepped for flares and paint work. Here you can see the "after" shot with the flares on and glass panels being fitted: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435699.1.jpg) There was a lot of metal work needed as indeed... the rust was free on this one. Before flares could go on, a new quarter panel was needed and various stiffening kits (factory and 914LTD) added to ensure minimal twist with an impending 3.6 install. The car was then painted "Signal Orange" and given back to Mike for some detail installments. Fast forward to present day. We picked the car up from Mike and began ticking off items on his wish list. Install driving lights, front turn signal buckets, hood lights, hood pins, sway bar, get turn signals working, various trim pieces etc. Here's how it it sat when we got'er in the shop: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435700.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435701.3.jpg) Then the "inevitable" happened. It began to act like any other DAPO 914. She began to show some of her true colors. I actually think the car was talking to us and letting us know about the problems before she burned to the ground in a heap of smoke and flames. Let's start with wiring because we basically had to re-wire the car. What started as a simple request to "get the rear light buckets working" brought us to a few swapped wires on the install post paint and then... funny smells and blown fuses. When we looked at the fuse block we saw this: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435702.4.jpg) Yes, the blown fuse was also a 16a!! Needless to say, this was one of the first things we did... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435702.5.jpg) We also found some previous melted wires that could have been catastrophic: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435703.6.jpg) This caused us to start at the front and completely go over all of the wiring. Fix and replace with proper factory colored wires from a donor harness and wrap everything back up with the early cloth tape loom. The factory driving light harness was cut and crimp on ends were all that existed in the apron. We went into the harness and soldiered in new leads and used factory sheathing to bring them through the grommets in the front apron. Mike wanted these PIAA lights so we then soldiered the PIAA ends on the factory wires and inserted them back into the connectors for a clean, clip-on installation: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435704.7.jpg) Next we did the same thing while repairing the horn leads. Removed the crappy blue crimp on connectors and went full factory with the protective sheath. We also ran a second lead over for dual tone horns. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435704.8.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435705.9.jpg) Here's a shot of Mike's new harness: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435786.1.jpg) |
0396 |
Dec 7 2013, 11:07 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
We've been working on this one for a while now and I thought you'd like to follow along. It has a lot of "914" issues to sort through and can be a good piece to show how and why to fix things properly, especially with the value of these cars climbing and the money invested in a car of this quality. Thanks for the inspiration. 3.6-(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)... A 964 or 993 install? If I had to guess, 964 ..oh wait. 993 with webers -(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)! |
toolguy |
Dec 7 2013, 12:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,275 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
Eric. . pm sent. . Dave
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bigkensteele |
Dec 7 2013, 12:28 PM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
Nice work as usual, Eric.
Will the 3.2 be for sale? Please PM me if so. |
shoguneagle |
Dec 7 2013, 01:29 PM
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shoguneagle Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 3-January 03 From: CA, OR, AZ (CAZOR); New Mexico Member No.: 84 Region Association: Northern California |
Very nice, indeed! One for great enjoyment.
Steve |
rudedude |
Dec 7 2013, 01:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 517 Joined: 1-January 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,387 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Eric,
Very nice indeed! Keep us posted. Jule |
gothspeed |
Dec 7 2013, 02:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
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JamesM |
Dec 7 2013, 02:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,008 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Is this the car that rear quarter from my place went to? I felt a little bad about cutting that one up given how solid the longs were, but if this is the result of its sacrifice then it was totally worth it. Looks awesome!
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old dog |
Dec 7 2013, 06:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 63 Joined: 14-December 12 From: Oxnard,CA. Member No.: 15,257 Region Association: Central California |
Very nice !
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scotty b |
Dec 7 2013, 06:14 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tell Brown E he does wonderful work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Eric_Shea |
Dec 7 2013, 06:32 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks guys.
PM not received Dave. 3.2 is probably sold already. James, it is indeed your quarter panel. If that car hs good longs you can always put a complete QRS kit on it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (more on that in our next build thread). Thanks for the good metal!! We seriously had to dig into the wiring on this. Front and rear harness and most of the dash. We even did all of the harness behind the fuel tank and fresh air box. Anywhere we found "crimp-ons". Here's David "assuming the 914 position". (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386462714.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386462716.2.jpg) Making progress... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386462717.3.jpg) David checking the lights. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386462718.4.jpg) The rear harness was so brittle it was falling apart in our hands. Here's one of those 914 "tips". Do the wiring right and... to do that, one of the best things to get is an old harness out of a sawzall project. We pulled the rear harness apart from the engine compartment to the light housings. We then found the license plate leads were seriously so hard they were breaking like a twig. A few things can do this, heat and elements. We pulled the proper color and gauge wires from our donor harness and "soldiered" the factory ends on them and heat shrinked the ends. Do it right... IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES! And, wiring is one of those things that can come back to bite you time and time again. We installed the lights in the fiberglass bumper and hooked it up! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386462718.5.jpg) Guess what? Turn signals are still goofy. Switch! Guess what? More crimp-ons! We're pretty sure the melted wire came from a bad switch. We found the turn signal switch all metled. Time for a new switch but... NO MORE CRIMPS!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386462719.6.jpg) The hot lead pulled off in our hands and the horn ground was broken and frayed. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386462910.1.jpg) We pulled the switch and tore into the 12-pin connector. Unsoldiered the factory pins and soldiered them on to the new switch. The worst part will be getting the cover back on. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386462720.8.jpg) |
rick 918-S |
Dec 7 2013, 06:38 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Wiring can be so time consuming. Nice car!
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Eric_Shea |
Dec 7 2013, 06:40 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Rear hood tie-downs in place:
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386463213.1.jpg) Hood pins are going on so we had to weld in new plates for the front trunk corners: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386463215.2.jpg) Tarett install... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386463215.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386463216.4.jpg) |
Mike Bellis |
Dec 7 2013, 06:43 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Eric, I think your just taking pics of your car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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914werke |
Dec 7 2013, 07:22 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,990 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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JRust |
Dec 7 2013, 07:46 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) is up with those front brakes man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) . Those fronts do not look like PMB work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) . Get your rebuilt calipers on & a nice fresh rotor bud. Thats just embarrassing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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Eric_Shea |
Dec 8 2013, 08:43 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Brakes are further down the list right now. That's a Carrera front end bolted on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Too much rotor, too heavy. The idea is to find a nice set of S-Calipers and 20mm rotors and remove the odd "front" bias valve. Phase 2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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PanelBilly |
Dec 8 2013, 10:56 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,863 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Are you putting anything on the metal tabs that hold the wire in place? I used heat shrink tubing and it worked great. Doesn't have the deep black color. More like dark grey, but it does a nice job.
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MDG |
Dec 8 2013, 12:57 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
Brakes are further down the list right now. That's a Carrera front end bolted on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Too much rotor, too heavy. The idea is to find a nice set of S-Calipers and 20mm rotors and remove the odd "front" bias valve. Phase 2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I've got some wide-A's you can have for free. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
mikesmith |
Dec 8 2013, 01:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 5-September 13 From: SF Member No.: 16,354 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1386435704.7.jpg) Not to rag on a lovely looking job, or on the idea of fixing wiring, but using a sealed connector (even something cheap like a WeatherPack) there would be good. Otherwise, it's going to get wet (assuming this is a driver and not a museum piece) and in a few years it'll be corroded and someone else will be cursing the DAPO. 8) |
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