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> PMB Performance - Mike Krieger Build, Sorting out a -6 conversion and going 3.6
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post Jan 9 2014, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jan 9 2014, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Jan 8 2014, 10:16 PM) *

Eric should sell a hood pin idiot light.


ouch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Had a Baja Bug with only hood pins for the front hood, no safety catch..... easy to forget
hood flew over the roof...... twice......
Could this tragedy have happened to someone here ?
just askin'
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post Jan 29 2014, 01:23 PM
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We finished off the pins but I've neglected this thread a tad so, here's a few updated shots:

Pins through:
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Prepping the plates:
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Rivets ready:
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Installed:
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Holes adjusted for final fit and pins in place:
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post Jan 29 2014, 01:53 PM
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Next, out comes the 3.2 and we get ready to finish off the engine compartment and trunks.

We begin with a little prep work. They installed the BB heat exchangers but retained the longer studs. The studs harden with the heat cycle and can become a real bear, especially with the extra length. W'ell probably install all short studs on the 3.6 before putting it in.

All of the cables, wiring, hoses and linkage is being prepped and removed:
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...and, out it comes:
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Now to prep the engine compartment:
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post Jan 29 2014, 01:58 PM
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Next is the hard line install. If you recall, the car had it's oil lines (and fuel lines) running under the floor pan. We weren't too keen on either so, factory style hard lines and SS fuel lines in the proper places were the answer.

Drilling out mouse holes:
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Perfect fit for the line placement:
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We have a little work to do with the heater tube before we mount these up but, so far we're "very" happy with the placement.
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post Jan 29 2014, 03:09 PM
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Very nice.
Is that a 914LTD long plate of steel on there, or custom?

Can you please post how the oil lines go all the way up front...for those of us that need heat and defrost (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 29 2014, 03:38 PM
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914ltd kit.

Regarding the lines; not there yet with this build (where I think you're asking about) but once it goes off to the body shop, we'll hit the J-Tube with acetylene and use a large drift to do this:

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It's a factory mod we gleaned from looking at a GT with heat.
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post Jan 29 2014, 03:59 PM
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Methinks you have outgrown your shop already?

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post Jan 29 2014, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jan 29 2014, 04:38 PM) *

914ltd kit.

Regarding the lines; not there yet with this build (where I think you're asking about) but once it goes off to the body shop, we'll hit the J-Tube with acetylene and use a large drift to do this:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1391031538.1.jpg)

It's a factory mod we gleaned from looking at a GT with heat.

yup, that is a big part of the question.
The rest, I will wait and see,
Not a fan of hot oil in the passenger compartment, so I will be patient to see what you do....I think I know.

Do you make the oil lines for this application?

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post Jan 30 2014, 11:41 AM
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I have about 2,000 miles on my car and I can't say as I've noticed the oil lines in the passengers compartment, unless you're talking about a safety issue. We have an order in for a couple 916 steel covers.

Jeff makes these lines. These are steel lines with zinc coating. They are custom made for the application (914ltd kit and no jack posts to worry about). Hard to come by because he has a rather demanding day job.
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post Jan 30 2014, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jan 30 2014, 12:41 PM) *

I have about 2,000 miles on my car and I can't say as I've noticed the oil lines in the passengers compartment, unless you're talking about a safety issue. We have an order in for a couple 916 steel covers.

Jeff makes these lines. These are steel lines with zinc coating. They are custom made for the application (914ltd kit and no jack posts to worry about). Hard to come by because he has a rather demanding day job.

cool, and its not that I would notice them, its a safety issue.
A cover would be nice to see, should not be to hard to fabricate one.

Your pics are of the drivers side??

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Drivers side... yes.

When I said "notice" I meant heat. Some say they can heat up the interior. Car hasn't gotten much over 180 anywhoo so... hard to say.
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Gotcha....

Why not run them like a 911?
Mine (1984) are all under, then up inside the fender to the cooler.

Makes placing the jacks hard, but can be done.
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post Feb 17 2014, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jan 29 2014, 04:38 PM) *

914ltd kit.

Regarding the lines; not there yet with this build (where I think you're asking about) but once it goes off to the body shop, we'll hit the J-Tube with acetylene and use a large drift to do this:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1391031538.1.jpg)

It's a factory mod we gleaned from looking at a GT with heat.


Eric- does this weaken the area? Do you weld in something to compensate?
How do you keep the water out?
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No. No. and... Clay (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Looks like we have a little time to make up here. The decision has changed a bit. Now the mission is to get the 3.6 in and get the car running. Phase II will be to paint and clean up the trunks and do some final welding work. For now, the race is on to get the 3.6 in and sort through the wiring harness (which on this car can be a challenge). We're hoping to have the engine in place this week.

The induction was taken off and the engine basically stripped to a long block. We ran a compression test and repaired a number of valve cover threads. These covers were torqued way beyond spec to (assuming) stop a leak.

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Fuel rails and various bits were replated and cleaned up. The entire engine was detailed giving us a good look at any areas needing attention:

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The dual intake tubes had to be cut apart and trimmed so the intake manifold could be turned down to fit in the 914 engine compartment.

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Little problem here:

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Leakdown was spot on across the board. We had one exhaust valve that gave us an issue but when we tapped on it, it settled in. Just a little carbon buildup.

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Everything all cleaned up and repaired. Valve covers going back on:

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We opted for new lower valve covers as the previous mechanic put some sort of RTV all over these and it would have been hours to get them clean. Hours that would equate to the cost of a new pair of correct covers.

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Getting there...

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Steve Weiner worked his magic on the twin plug dizzy. It basically needed everything:

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The next challenge was getting the sheet metal to fit up. Lots of custom work on the left rear corner:

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The 914 tin needed to be modified for the lower plug wires:

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Almost there. This one needed a new fan as corrosion literally split and almost took off a blade:

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A new Centerforce clutch is now hiding under a new pressure plate and to bearing:

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Some other goodies arrived last week as well! Time to wrap up the wiring for these puppies:

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post Mar 30 2014, 08:13 PM
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Speaking of wiring...

This is one of my pet peeves. This car had the Home Depot corrugated plastic sheathing all over the harness, front to rear. It also had a wrap on the loom as it went through the center tunnel. That usually means they have something to cover-up... no?

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Here's one of my favorites... a bread tie! Not just "a" bread tie, a bunch-o-bread-ties. One was even punched through the carpet on the passengers side to hold one of these up. Ironically, it was a hot lead to the fuel pump that went back to the 14 pin so it could attach to a wire in the loom that went back up to the fuse panel. Following this? They ran a fuel pump up front and ran the wire to the back to hook it up to a wire that went to the front again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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The final phase is in the works. The tunnel and the engine compartment will be buttoned up this week. Yuk!

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I love throwing this stuff in the trash! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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The 3.6 harness will be run inside the factory harness and everything will be re-wrapped in the cloth tape. Stay tuned.
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I like your table top. Was considering working one of my SC case for that same thing.
Keep up the great work / update.
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Yeah... that's one of those 2.4 7R cases that everybody's after! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)
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I wanna see those Cibies mounted! Are they going on the hood, 911 rally style?
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Indeed they will. See post #26 where we already ran the wires to bring the juice to them.
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You seriously need more shop space! And several more Eric's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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