Rear Brake Caliper Options w/ 911 Park Brake Options

[0396]

Quality is not inexpensive. At the sale price if $700+ for a set! it's a great price.

[ClayPerrine]

I'd love to have a proper handbrake, but I'm going to be running the Boxster calipers, so I think I need to go with the "modern" brake-shoe drum setup. Right?

I have the boxster calipers on my /6 conversion, and love them. They stop great. I have the 911 drum style park break, and it works fine if properly adjusted. You do have to be able to weld to set this up, as you have to have a stop block on the trailing arm for the shoes. The rest is bolt on.

[CptTripps]

That's what I'm looking for. I haven't seen a thread that specifically talks about WHAT to buy to make it work. I can weld and am getting ready to completely rebuild the rear trailing arms, so now's the time while I have them stripped. I'm going to weld tubes in anyway, so one extra step to give me a proper handbrake is a no-brainer.

I was also hoping to find a good/easy way to relocate the handbrake to the center console. Since I'm gutting all that stuff anyway, I may as well "while I'm in there."

[mepstein]

2lbs. 12oz. light enough? 38mm pistons are the perfect bias for the fronts.

http://www.pmbperformance.com/catalog/item...645/9768541.htm

No on the balance bar MC, you would only be able to pull the fronts or rears out of the system. With the 38mm pistons you have the prefect bias match for the 48mm fronts.

For $100.00 more I'd just go with the proper 914-6 rear calipers. Love for me, hate for others who don't want to or know how to maintain them. They're a great caliper that should be simply adjusted once a year when you inspect your brakes and change your fluid (right?)

If you don't want a handbrake, fine. If you do, it would be cheaper to run the 914-6 route vs. doing all of the mod work for the 911 handbrakes.

http://www.pmbperformance.com/catalog/item...676/9712726.htm

I think it's funny that a $699.00 "pair" of calipers is spendy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)

E - Your site says $799.00 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) - and worth every penny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[mepstein]

That's what I'm looking for. I haven't seen a thread that specifically talks about WHAT to buy to make it work. I can weld and am getting ready to completely rebuild the rear trailing arms, so now's the time while I have them stripped. I'm going to weld tubes in anyway, so one extra step to give me a proper handbrake is a no-brainer.

I was also hoping to find a good/easy way to relocate the handbrake to the center console. Since I'm gutting all that stuff anyway, I may as well "while I'm in there."

Did Jeff Hail relocate the handbrake on his build?

[Mike Bellis]

I would like to get a dedicated parking brake caliper. I've seen them but not big enough to fit over my 930 rotor.

[tomeric914]

I haven't seen a thread that specifically talks about WHAT to buy to make it work. I can weld and am getting ready to completely rebuild the rear trailing arms, so now's the time while I have them stripped.

There are many ways to skin the cat.

Tangerine racing offers one way to do it in a complete package: http://tangerineracing.com/brakes.htm

I relocated the brake cable brackets on the trailing arm so as to have a straight pull on the bell crank. The bell crank pivots in a bronze bushing from Lowes inside a weld on bushing purchased from http://www.aa-mfg.com/. This all slides onto a bolt welded to the trailing arm acting like a stud. I never took any measurements, but may have more pictures. One thing for certain, the block that the brake shoes rest on and the bell crank pulls against must be reinforced. Otherwise it will fail.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm5.static.flickr.com-9101-1280710809.1.jpg)

[tomeric914]

I would like to get a dedicated parking brake caliper. I've seen them but not big enough to fit over my 930 rotor.

Use one of the Wilwood spot calipers and create a thicker spacer to accommodate your rotor. I've got a place near me that can waterjet a spacer in pretty much any profile.

[tomeric914]

Stumbled across these images as well:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1107358864.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-721-1194291617.jpg)

And this one with the wider spacer mod mentioned above. In this case it was for Corvette brakes:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.vettemod.com-9101-1386875994.1.jpg)

[Eric_Shea]

E - Your site says $799.00 - and worth every penny

Please review the thread title. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)

$699.00 for the caliper the OP is asking about.

Now add all of the internal adjusters, a core set of 914 calipers to get arms and parts off and you can apply the same makeshift math to the 914-6 calipers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[ClayPerrine]

Stumbled across these images as well:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1107358864.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-721-1194291617.jpg)

And this one with the wider spacer mod mentioned above. In this case it was for Corvette brakes:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.vettemod.com-9101-1386875994.1.jpg)

That first picture is mine. I have one piece of advise for you. DON'T DO IT! I tried it, and Wes Hildreth tried it on a car owned by Mike Floyd here in the DFW area. We learned that if you set the park break with the rotor hot, you need a big assed hammer to get them to release. There was no spring we could find that was strong enough to pull the pads loose.

Wilwood used to sell that setup for their Ford 9 inch and Chevy 12 bolt disk brake kits. They have all been replaced with an internal drum brake like the 911 park brake. I called them and asked, and they had the same problem we did.

[eric9144]

I think it's funny that a $699.00 "pair" of calipers is spendy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)

He's absolutely right

If it's one thing you guys shouldn't be cheaping out on, its your brake system! With all the $$$$ we throw at these cars an improperly set up braking system is likely going to get you into a really bad situation that will ultimately cost far more than doing the job right... Just my 69,900 cents (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

[0396]

I think it's funny that a $699.00 "pair" of calipers is spendy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)

He's absolutely right

If it's one thing you guys shouldn't be cheaping out on, its your brake system! With all the $$$$ we throw at these cars an improperly set up braking system is likely going to get you into a really bad situation that will ultimately cost far more than doing the job right... Just my 69,900 cents (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Yes we should not be cheaaap . I walked this path > 15 years ago. Since I used my car for the track, I simply went to Race Technologies and they made up a system with 993 Big Reds on all 4 corners...no parking brake -(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Mike Bellis]

I would like to get a dedicated parking brake caliper. I've seen them but not big enough to fit over my 930 rotor.

Use one of the Wilwood spot calipers and create a thicker spacer to accommodate your rotor. I've got a place near me that can waterjet a spacer in pretty much any profile.

YES!!! That's what I need.

[andys]

Stumbled across these images as well:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1107358864.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-721-1194291617.jpg)

And this one with the wider spacer mod mentioned above. In this case it was for Corvette brakes:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.vettemod.com-9101-1386875994.1.jpg)

That first picture is mine. I have one piece of advise for you. DON'T DO IT! I tried it, and Wes Hildreth tried it on a car owned by Mike Floyd here in the DFW area. We learned that if you set the park break with the rotor hot, you need a big assed hammer to get them to release. There was no spring we could find that was strong enough to pull the pads loose.

Wilwood used to sell that setup for their Ford 9 inch and Chevy 12 bolt disk brake kits. They have all been replaced with an internal drum brake like the 911 park brake. I called them and asked, and they had the same problem we did.

The second picture is of mine. I read about the sticking pad problem, but have yet to experience it....Knock on wood! I too called Wilwood, and the guy I spoke with heard of no such problem.

Andys

[Jeff Hail]

Ipsco make a nice spot caliper for Pantera and Vipers that are small and light. Good design for clamping. Will go from .750 on up to 1.25 inch thick rotor.

The Brembo spot parking brakes used on Ferrari are really light but they are kind of bulky. They are fairly cheap to purchase though and cable operated.

[Harpo]

Many new cars are using electric park brakes. I believe the ford fusion is one. Anyone try one of these?

Harpo

[tomeric914]

Many new cars are using electric park brakes. I believe the ford fusion is one. Anyone try one of these?

I went down that path but most of the electric actuated parking brakes are integral to the caliper. I did find the following article on Brembo's website with respect to electric parking brakes that they have in or under development.

http://www.brembo.com/en/News/Pages/BREMBO...FFICIENCY-.aspx