 Best jack/lift for engine removal? |
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| ChrisFoley |
 Dec 20 2013, 11:45 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing  Group: Members Posts: 7,990 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(billh1963 @ Dec 20 2013, 11:27 AM)  QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Dec 20 2013, 11:11 AM) QUOTE(billh1963 @ Dec 20 2013, 09:25 AM) same low price every day. If you want discounts buy chinese. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Yours is probably made from Chinese steel... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) The only chinese here is my lunch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) |
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| andys |
Dec 20 2013, 11:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Valencia, CA Member No.: 721 Region Association: None
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That low profile transmission jack looks good to me. The adjustable tilt feature is something you'll use; it's a nice feature. Also, the wide stance helps with stability.
I made one specific to my engine/trans combo, but it was a lot of work. Used the heck out of it. Andys Attached image(s)  
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| ChrisFoley |
Dec 20 2013, 11:56 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,990 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(boxsterfan @ Dec 20 2013, 11:51 AM) Does that actually attach to the floor jack or just rest upon it? A large diameter pin on the underside of the lift plate drops into a hole found in most older full size jacks. If yours doesn'thave that feature, its simple to bolt a block of wood with a center hole onto the jack. I modified the Sears jack shown by removing a long bolt that secured the jack top plate, and replaced it with two short bolts to keep the arms attached to the top plate. The center hole was just the right diameter.  |
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| r_towle |
Dec 20 2013, 05:02 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,705 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Does anyone know the outside width of an engine without the engine mounting bar?
I keep seeing a car show called wheeler dealers and he rolls a table under the car and lowers it from the lift. I have a 4 post drive on lift and I am hoping I might be able to do his, once I remove the engine bar.....just lower the motor to the table and lift the car off. rich |
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| rhodyguy |
Dec 20 2013, 05:21 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,249 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
i walked out and measured. 37 1/2" across the front of the engine tin.
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| mikesmith |
Dec 20 2013, 06:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 5-September 13 From: SF Member No.: 16,354 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Dec 20 2013, 08:39 AM) furniture dolly is totally fine. the challenge is getting the car up high enough, safely. Jim, thanks - that's a fairly terrifying picture given that I'm doing this inside, between another car and our two-wheelers. How much of that height is actually required? It looks like you still have the carb / distributor on the block - would removing them have helped clearance much? |
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| Mike Bellis |
Dec 20 2013, 11:47 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,347 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(mikesmith @ Dec 20 2013, 04:51 PM) QUOTE(jimkelly @ Dec 20 2013, 08:39 AM) furniture dolly is totally fine. the challenge is getting the car up high enough, safely. Jim, thanks - that's a fairly terrifying picture given that I'm doing this inside, between another car and our two-wheelers. How much of that height is actually required? It looks like you still have the carb / distributor on the block - would removing them have helped clearance much? My car is lowered. I lift it slightly, slide furniture dollys under the bar. Lower the car on the dollys, support the tranny with a jack and unbolt everything. I then lift the car up with my cherry picker and slide the motor out. I hook the cherry picker on my cage inside the trunk. This method won't work on a stock car. |
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| euro911 |
Dec 21 2013, 12:36 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,912 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(iamchappy @ Dec 20 2013, 10:42 AM) Lift table doubles as a work area for your engine also. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)  I've done the furniture dolly method, standard floor jacks, M/C jacks and hydraulic tables. I've currently got pretty much the same set up as Chappy and it's by far the best for a one man operation as far as I'm concerned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| billh1963 |
Dec 21 2013, 05:10 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,408 Joined: 28-March 11 From: North Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(andys @ Dec 20 2013, 12:52 PM) That low profile transmission jack looks good to me. The adjustable tilt feature is something you'll use; it's a nice feature. Also, the wide stance helps with stability. I made one specific to my engine/trans combo, but it was a lot of work. Used the heck out of it. Andys That is a sweet looking rig |
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| jimkelly |
Dec 21 2013, 09:00 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I think removing dist and carb would require 4" or so less lift.
be careful to unbolt trans first when uninstalling and bolt trans last when installing, to keep pressure off the trans ears, as they are know to break. I think getting the front up a few inches would result in car being at less a precarious slant. Attached image(s) 
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| rhodyguy |
Dec 21 2013, 10:28 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,249 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
especially on a sloped driveway! carbs and linkage off in one piece my way. no need to pull the distributor.
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| J P Stein |
Dec 21 2013, 10:59 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(J P Stein @ Dec 20 2013, 04:52 AM) I dropped/installed the motor at least once a year.......it's worth taking the time to make a set up. ...... With that set up I could drop or install the motor in a couple hours *working alone*. That is starting out with the car setting on the tires. When you're working alone, stability is paramount & a good idea with help. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I did have a few years of practice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Chinese ATV lifts are cheep now days. |
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| brp986s |
Dec 21 2013, 02:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 27-September 07 From: los angeles Member No.: 8,167 |
Save your back, your money, and your time by just going whole-hog now. Get a lift and a table. Use the table to lift your engine up to a workbench mounted vice/yolk. I did the furniture dolly/various floor jack/chunks o'wood thing for years, but just have no tolerance for that nonsense anymore.
I got a Mcmaster table. $1k - needed to look the other way when committing-to-buy, but is 1/3 larger than the comparable HF unit, and was delivered to my house. From reading, the HF unit will instantly snap off the handle, has hair-trigger hydraulic, and is disposable in the event of hydraulic problems due to unavailable parts and low quality. |
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| mikesmith |
Dec 21 2013, 04:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 5-September 13 From: SF Member No.: 16,354 Region Association: Northern California |
Getting a lift involves about a US$1M investment (buy a house) and whilst I'm looking, it's not an immediate option. Hence being interested in the alternatives. 8)
Rhody - Jim is talking about the SBC, where the distributor sticks up a very long way... |
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| r_towle |
Dec 21 2013, 04:27 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,705 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(mikesmith @ Dec 21 2013, 05:15 PM) Getting a lift involves about a US$1M investment (buy a house) and whilst I'm looking, it's not an immediate option. Hence being interested in the alternatives. 8) Rhody - Jim is talking about the SBC, where the distributor sticks up a very long way... Two solid floor jacks, high lift, and a dolly. I can still get it out in under and hour, and there is very little drama... Though the part that is starting to suck is the up down up down to get all the tools I forgot to grab the first five times, and the concrete floor. |
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| billh1963 |
Dec 21 2013, 04:33 PM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,408 Joined: 28-March 11 From: North Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(r_towle @ Dec 21 2013, 05:27 PM) Though the part that is starting to suck is the up down up down to get all the tools I forgot to grab the first five times, and the concrete floor. Amen! Pulled my passenger seat in the BMW to fix the power seat cables. I think I spent more time going back and forth for tools than doing the actual work. That will wear you out! |
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| billh1963 |
Dec 21 2013, 04:36 PM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,408 Joined: 28-March 11 From: North Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(brp986s @ Dec 21 2013, 03:34 PM) Save your back, your money, and your time by just going whole-hog now. Get a lift and a table. Use the table to lift your engine up to a workbench mounted vice/yolk. The new garage (and two lifts) is coming in the spring. For now I have to use what I have. I like the idea of the table....the reviews on the HF table are bad. Northern Tools has one that has better ratings. |
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| 0396 |
Dec 21 2013, 04:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Dec 20 2013, 09:56 AM) QUOTE(boxsterfan @ Dec 20 2013, 11:51 AM) Does that actually attach to the floor jack or just rest upon it? A large diameter pin on the underside of the lift plate drops into a hole found in most older full size jacks. If yours doesn'thave that feature, its simple to bolt a block of wood with a center hole onto the jack. I modified the Sears jack shown by removing a long bolt that secured the jack top plate, and replaced it with two short bolts to keep the arms attached to the top plate. The center hole was just the right diameter. Chris, Who sells these type 4 engine cradle depicted in your picture? Thanks. |
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| euro911 |
Dec 21 2013, 06:31 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,912 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California
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He does ... click here
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| 0396 |
Dec 21 2013, 11:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(euro911 @ Dec 21 2013, 04:31 PM) Thanks! It's going to be an after Xmas item to secure. Enjoy Ymir holidays (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) |
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