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jim_hoyland |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,682 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
I previously acquired all the parts for a clutch replacement: flywheel, pressure plate, clutch, throw out bearing, and the clips, seals, bolts, washers, and bushing that go along with the main parts.
Two questions: 1. I have two clutch disks, a 6 spring and a 4 spring. Which would be preferred for street driving ? 2. I do not have a new flywheel pilot bearing; should I buy one before I start. And, would a VW parts house carry them. Car is going in next week to replace everything, just want to have all the parts on-hand |
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Ok Jim,
The 4 spring was for the /4. Supposedly they don't make the 4 spring anymore and it was replaced by the 6 spring which was originally for the /6. The 6 spring gives a smoother take up (engagement) of the clutch. Use the 6 spring. If the pilot bearing is still good there is no need to change it. It should run smoothly when a pilot shaft (or your finger if it's small enough) is used to rotate in it. |
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You need a new pilot bearing to go with your new flywheel. Don't skip the little things, it's not easy to get the old one out undammaged and then install in new flywheel.
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I got a few engine parts from the local VW shop, they might have the pilot bearing.
Jon |
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada ![]() |
The pilot bearing is a pretty standard part, VW type 1 though 4, at least to '89 911 so any VW bug shop.
The 4 spring has clearance issues if the flywheel has been reground, but if it clears I'd use it if to just get rid of it. No real difference. |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,682 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Thank's for the tips. All the parts are new; I'll pick up the new bearing.
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bdstone914 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,879 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 ![]() |
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada ![]() |
Thank's for the tips. All the parts are new; I'll pick up the new bearing. Do not forget the flywheel o ring and crush washer. Pelican shows them under flywheel parts. Bruce There is also a felt seal that mounts between the pilot bearing and the flywheel bolt washer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,682 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Thank's for the tips. All the parts are new; I'll pick up the new bearing. Do not forget the flywheel o ring and crush washer. Pelican shows them under flywheel parts. Bruce I have all the small parts shown on: http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopca..._Tclutc_pg1.htm The only one I didn't get was the Flywheel pilot bearing; the local VW shop has it. |
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Yacht Rigger ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,803 Joined: 1-October 08 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 9,601 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
Thank's for the tips. All the parts are new; I'll pick up the new bearing. Do not forget the flywheel o ring and crush washer. Pelican shows them under flywheel parts. Bruce I have all the small parts shown on: http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopca..._Tclutc_pg1.htm The only one I didn't get was the Flywheel pilot bearing; the local VW shop has it. Got any tips on installing the pilot bearing? I think I screwed mine up as it doesn't run free. Is there a heat/cold technique? |
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914 Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,151 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
No heat needed, it should just slip in. I think it may go in from the back of the flywheel, though?
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Chingon 601 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 ![]() |
i see lots of cars missing the spacer that lives in teh crank end
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jim_hoyland |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,682 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Still need the M12 x 1.5 flywheel bolts, 25mm ? Autoparts store ?
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bdstone914 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,879 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 ![]() |
Still need the M12 x 1.5 flywheel bolts, 25mm ? Autoparts store ? Jim, In another thread The Cap'n replied that they can be reused. I have a used set you can have or they are available new. http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/...-014-336-1-M100 Bruce |
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914 Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,151 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
The flywheel bolts are special parts, not standard hardware-store items. The back side of the head has teeth that bite into the lock plate.
I recommend replacing them, though I have ignored that recommendation in my own case more than once... With new bolts, you are much more certain that the teeth are in good shape, for one thing. --DD |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,682 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Still need the M12 x 1.5 flywheel bolts, 25mm ? Autoparts store ? Jim, In another thread The Cap'n replied that they can be reused. I have a used set you can have or they are available new. http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/...-014-336-1-M100 Bruce Thanks Bruce (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I went ahead and ordered new ones from Pelican. They are hard to find; even Hillco didn't have them. What's the story on adjusting the crank end play with shims; where are shims available, and how people find replacing a flywheel also requires shims (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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i see lots of cars missing the spacer that lives in teh crank end (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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