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> Building a 2270 motor with LH-Jet, A discussion thread....
boxsterfan
post Jan 30 2014, 11:33 AM
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First off, I am not anywhere near an expert in engine building, cam selection (how duration and lift affect the motor at idle and driving), injector flow rates, etc, etc, etc... So now that I have that out of the way, I still want to figure out the bits and parts that ***may*** make it possible to run a 2270 motor with LH-Jet. The primary reasons I am looking at this setup are because:
  • L-Jet likely is not a good setup for this based upon my reading (issues with cam, idle troubles, hesitation, full power, etc...).
  • I don't want to run carbs.
  • I don't believe I want to tackle MegaSquirt (leaving the door open though).
  • It sounds like fun/dare to be different.
1. The first question that comes to mind is will it be LH-Jet 1.0 vs LH-Jet 2.0?
From my research, LH-Jet 1.0 was pretty rare and used in the early 80's but then a switch to LH-Jet 2.0 occured. The primary difference between the two was that LH-Jet 2.0 utilized a Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) whereas LH-Jet 1.0 did not.

2. If LH-Jet 2.0 variant is the desired setup, which sub-variant would be used?
There appears to be a couple sub-variants within LH-Jet 2.0 primarily consisting of LH-Jet 2.2 and LH-Jet 2.4. It appears one of the primary differences between the two is that the LH-Jet 2.4 utilizes a "trigger flywheel" and the LH-Jet 2.2 does not. What exactly a "trigger flywheel" is I am not sure....I am guess that this is a notch or mark on the flywheel that is monitored by a sensor with the data fed back to the ECU.

3. What would the "build" sheet look like for such a setup?

Of course, this list can get complicated, but the desired build here is a street car with spirited driving. I would want excellent low-end torque, around 140-150HP on the motor and good pull all the way through the RPM range up to XXXX RPM (not sure where redline would be). Note also, the car will remain as a narrow body with 4-lug wheels.
  • 2270 motor with which CAM?
  • What plenum could work here?
  • What intake runners would work here?
  • Which fuel injectors could work here?
  • Need to upgrade fuel pump?
  • ECU - need to pull from Volvo/Saab from 80's
  • FI Wiring Harness - need to pull from Volvo/Saab from 80's and will require customization
  • Need any relay boards?
  • Hot-wire MAF Sensor - need to pull from Volvo/Saab LH-Jet system
  • IAC - Electronic Idle Controller - need to pull from Volvo/Saab from 80's
  • O2 Sensor - need to pull from Volvo/Saab from the 80's - where to mount?
  • CHTS - Utilize the existing CHTS (TS2) input into the ECU as a substitute for the coolant temp sensor (just have to figure out the proper resistance)
  • Cold Start Valve - probably not needed here in the Bay, but what could be done here? Or does existing on the Type IV motor work here?
Of course, if you have already done this setup, it would be great to here from you, how the car drives, pain points, etc, etc....
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boxsterfan   Building a 2270 motor with LH-Jet   Jan 30 2014, 11:33 AM
Mark Henry   No clue and you are trail blazing here, looks like...   Jan 30 2014, 11:45 AM
Dave_Darling   Your best bet is to find a four-cylinder car that ...   Jan 30 2014, 12:57 PM
r_towle   Your best bet is to find a four-cylinder car that...   Jan 30 2014, 02:27 PM
boxsterfan   Your best bet is to find a four-cylinder car tha...   Jan 30 2014, 02:35 PM
r_towle   [quote name='r_towle' post='1990715' date='Jan 30...   Jan 30 2014, 03:01 PM
ClayPerrine   Use LH-Jet 2.2 so you don't have to get involv...   Jan 30 2014, 01:50 PM
boxsterfan   Use LH-Jet 2.2 so you don't have to get invol...   Jan 30 2014, 02:32 PM
ClayPerrine   The 924 is CIS (Had one). The 944 is motronic wi...   Jan 30 2014, 03:35 PM
2mAn   E30 M3 & MB 2.3-16 are both in the realm of wh...   Jan 30 2014, 04:53 PM
edwin   Why bother trying to adapt something that has been...   Jan 30 2014, 05:09 PM
boxsterfan   According to my productive day at "work...   Jan 30 2014, 05:46 PM
colingreene   Honestly Id probably tackle doing a mega squirt an...   Jan 30 2014, 10:47 PM
boxsterfan   Honestly Id probably tackle doing a mega squirt a...   Jan 30 2014, 11:36 PM
sportlicherFahrer   On the muffler itself you should be able to get a ...   Jan 31 2014, 02:51 AM
jcd914   On mine the O2 sensor is in the Triad muffler, rat...   Jan 31 2014, 02:52 AM
Scarlet75   First off, I am not anywhere near an expert in en...   Jan 31 2014, 08:17 AM
boxsterfan   [quote name='boxsterfan' post='1990636' date='Jan...   Jan 31 2014, 11:56 AM
396   Interesting read. .subscribed   Jan 31 2014, 10:50 AM
Rand   I can't help but wonder about the Megasquirt (...   Jan 31 2014, 12:41 PM
boxsterfan   I can't help but wonder about the Megasquirt ...   Jan 31 2014, 01:00 PM
Rand   I can't help but wonder about the Megasquirt...   Jan 31 2014, 02:35 PM
boxsterfan   [quote name='boxsterfan' post='1991172' date='Jan...   Jan 31 2014, 07:04 PM
edwin   As far as programmability are there any lh2.2 cars...   Feb 1 2014, 01:24 AM
Jake Raby   The issue with this is the compromises that are ma...   Feb 1 2014, 08:22 AM
r_towle   The issue with this is the compromises that are m...   Feb 1 2014, 10:23 AM
Jake Raby   Yes, both ways.   Feb 1 2014, 04:12 PM
boxsterfan   Where can I find information on keeping the proper...   Feb 4 2014, 11:00 AM
skeates   Where can I find information on keeping the prope...   Feb 4 2014, 12:28 PM
MrKona   LH-Jet 2.2 cold start valve is controlled by the E...   May 25 2014, 06:14 PM
r_towle   LH-Jet 2.2 cold start valve is controlled by the ...   May 25 2014, 06:32 PM
MrKona   LH-Jet 2.2 cold start valve is controlled by the...   May 25 2014, 06:35 PM
r_towle   It's all Ohms and electronics... It could be d...   May 25 2014, 06:38 PM
Dave_Darling   I am told that oil typically takes twice as long t...   May 25 2014, 08:40 PM
r_towle   I am told that oil typically takes twice as long ...   May 25 2014, 08:46 PM
colingreene   I really don't think that that is at all true....   May 26 2014, 01:28 AM
Rleog   The specific heat capacity of water is 1 cal/gm-de...   May 26 2014, 03:36 AM
Jake Raby   Insude the engine, things change. This is the reas...   May 26 2014, 06:46 AM


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