 Becoming Euro-Trash, what is different? |
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| Flat VW |
 Jan 5 2005, 09:46 AM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar  Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105  |
Please forgive the topic title, my journalism teacher taught me to be bold with topic lines! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wavey.gif) I have a 72' 1.7 that has brand new "alpine white (soft white)" paint and gold "P" letters on the "hood". The only other "badge" on the exterior of car is a gold {914} emblem on the right rear in the usual place. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/bootyshake.gif) Additionally, my car has Perini wheels (thanks Greg Robbins for IDing (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) ) that are Mahle look-a-likes with "plain chrome" (unembellished) hub covers. I would like to know if my car is "badged" as it was when stock and new (USA, USa, Usa, usa, usa usa.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flag.gif)) I would also like to know how a euro model was visually different, also regarding badging. I am aware that the car was a VW-Porsche in Europe and I was thinking of "rebadging" my car in the "euro style" to match my "FLATVW" licence plate.(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_flagge6.gif) Comments? TIA (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 5 2005, 09:57 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
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P O R S C H E on the engine grill All Amber front turn signal lenses Amber sidemarkers Rec/clear tailights Badged as a PORSCHe 914 - 6 , 914 2.0 etc EURO No engine letter grilles no sidemarkers Amber/clear front lenses Amber/red/clear rear leneses sold as a VW-Porsche 914/6, etc |
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| Joe Bob |
Jan 5 2005, 09:59 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
NO Porsche crest on the front hood....no radio or A/C supplied by the factory.
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| sixnotfour |
Jan 5 2005, 10:06 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,412 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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Dont forget the horn pad on the steering wheel VW. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif)
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| Dave_Darling |
Jan 5 2005, 11:12 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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For a 72 US-spec car, the gold badge on the rear of the car would only say "914".
A Euro-spec car would have the "VW-Porsche 914" badge instead. Also gold. It would not have the "PORSCHE" on the engine grille, I believe, and it would have a Wolfsburg crest on the horn pad on the steering wheel. Plus Euro turn signal lenses F&R (F=amber/white; R=amber/red/white), plus no side markers. There are probably other differences I'm not remembering right now. --DD |
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| Bleyseng |
Jan 5 2005, 11:19 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
plus Euro 914's came with kilometer speedos, need one?
Geoff |
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| Gustl |
Jan 5 2005, 11:48 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,489 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
no A/C is correct, but there were factory installed radios available in Europe! as far as I know, Euro-cars were NOT available without the additional lights in the front bumper no "PORSCHE"-sidestripes available no bumper tits on the '73+ model no "FASTEN SEATBELT" light on the dashboard instruments with "km" scale, not "miles" no VIN at the driver's side windshield frame Wolfsburg crest on the horn button instead of Porsche crest there might be more little differences, but I think the most importand are here |
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| Flat VW |
Jan 5 2005, 01:17 PM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
Thanks to all for the responses. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
I should of also mentioned that I have already installed euro front and rear lenses that I had on my other 75 2.0 that I robbed.(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/vampire.gif) It has been in my garage for 18 years, DNR (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) . Does someone know where I might get a VW-Porsche rear badge? Maybe I'll trade ya for my "P" letters on my engine hood! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) What about wheels?(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolling.gif) There are some chrome steelies at the VW store available with porsche crests that would be quite "retro looking" on the car. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) I have placed a wtb ad here with little response. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) I can buy the new chrome steelie wheels for $88.00 each,(US.) with the caps but I really would like stock. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) What wheels were offered in Europe? What were the most common? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving-girl.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/MDB2.gif) I really like the look of the old steelies but I do wonder if they are much heavier they may be than the Perinis I have? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) Does anyone know if Perinis I have could have been stock,US? |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Jan 5 2005, 01:22 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Speaking of European delivery horn pads, the Cap'n hisownself happens to have TWO of them for sale. One is pretty nice, the other less so. Don't hurt each other over this one, kids! The Cap'n |
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| Joe Bob |
Jan 5 2005, 01:25 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Pelican, Performance Products, Automotion carry the badges....
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| Gustl |
Jan 5 2005, 01:30 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,489 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
still available at Mittelmotor (english) just look at "Products" - "Parts" - "Search" model 914 - 0.7 rubber, trim parts - 0.71 ornamental p. - and then click on the number of the desired part (I think you'd need #13) |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Jan 5 2005, 01:31 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
That's "Pedrini" wheels, and they came on some cars delivered to dealers. We saw a bunch of 'em in 73 when I worked at a dealer. Mahles were pretty scarce, 4.5" steel wheels were very common, all painted. Many dealers installed various styles of chrome wheels, Rivieras, P/S wheels, and some others. Empi wheels came along later. SOME dealers removed the Fuchs spares and made up sets from the "take offs", installing them on cars they ordered with steel wheels. The Cap'n
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| Gustl |
Jan 5 2005, 01:44 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,489 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
4 1/2 x 15 silver painted steel wheels with chrome cabs were standard up to '73 (Euro model with Wolfsburg crest on the cabs - US model no crest) 5 1/2 x 15 steel wheels ("Beetle cabrio style") were standard from '74 - '76 5 1/2 x 15 steel wheels were optional from '71 - '73 5 1/2 x 15 Pedrinis alloys were optional up to '73 5 1/2 x 15 Fuchs alloys were optional from '73 - '76 5 1/2 x 15 Mahle alloys were optional from '73 - '76 |
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| bondo |
Jan 5 2005, 02:22 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
What about that weird rain light or whatever it was on the rear bumper?
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 5 2005, 02:28 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
euro cars had an available rear fog light (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Gustl |
Jan 5 2005, 02:59 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,489 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
(IMG:http://oct.at/wos/tmp/914Nebel.jpg) |
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| Flat VW |
Jan 5 2005, 04:30 PM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
Ah, rear fog light, now we are getting to it! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
I suppose that is an indicator light for passing motorists? No aux lights? (front fog lights)? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif) Perini, Pedrini...... it's all the same thing, thanks cap'n. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif) Gustl thanks for the info. Nice Photograph thanks much. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Jan 5 2005, 04:44 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,607 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
it's red. it's *much* brighter than your brake lights. it comes on with the front fog-lights. and, you get a hefty ticket if you use then any time *other* than heavy fog (like rain)! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Andy |
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| Flat VW |
Jan 5 2005, 04:48 PM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
Thanks Sir Andy (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wavey.gif)
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| Dave_Darling |
Jan 5 2005, 05:35 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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Remember that most VW Bug wheels will have the wrong offset for a 914. With most of them, you will only be able to fit 165-width tires (or narrower!) under stock fenders. The 914 wheels sit more inboard than the Bug ones, and you can fit 195s easily or 205s (in most but not all cases) under the stock fenders.
--DD |
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