WTB: Fabricated -6 Headers and Heater Boxes Options

[earossi]

Does anyone on this board fabricate or know of anyone that fabricates -6 headers with incorporated heater boxes? I am looking for a set of headers for a 3.2 Carerra motor. Tubing size should be 1-5/8". Headers should have a properly flanged heater box, preferably made from stainless.

[bigkensteele]

I know the answer to his question, but I want the same thing, damnit!!!

[Mark Henry]

I've been told the the B&B fit like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) and throw less heat than a pile of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif)

What's you budget like?...or how bad do you want heat?

http://www.haywardandscott.com/porsche/914...exchangers.html

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[earossi]

I've been told the the B&B fit like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) and throw less heat than a pile of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif)

What's you budget like?...or how bad do you want heat?

http://www.haywardandscott.com/porsche/914...exchangers.html

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That would put the H&S heat exchangers at about $2500, which is way outside of any budget I would have. I believe that I can purchase Bursch headers for around $700. So, I was looking for someone that could fabricate heater boxes and infall them on the Bursch headers. I guess there is not enough demand to have anyone tool up for such a product.

[rick 918-S]

I could fabricate the heater boxes from stainless. I have a set of 914-6 heat exchangers to use as a basic design and to use to check clearance. Only problem is I have two cars ahead of anything else. I would not be available to take it on for 2-3 months. I'm only one guy.

[ConeDodger]

Mark might not know it yet (don't tell him), but he will be fabricating heater boxes for MSDS headers for me and Doug the guy who runs Trackmasters Racing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

[mepstein]

Mark might not know it yet (don't tell him), but he will be fabricating heater boxes for MSDS headers for me and Doug the guy who runs Trackmasters Racing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

Rob - Let me know when that happens so a 3rd set might be made. I will probably use msds on my 3.2. Thanks

[Mark Henry]

Mark might not know it yet (don't tell him), but he will be fabricating heater boxes for MSDS headers for me and Doug the guy who runs Trackmasters Racing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

I'm doing the same thing, Perry K will have a cow and tell us we're all going to die of CO poisoning. I'm going to run a CO detector just to be safe.
You can get little dot CO detectors for under $10 from Aircraft Spruce and they last 18 months.

[Cairo94507]

I have had my eye on the Hayward & Scott system for quite some time and would like to put those on my car. Has anyone actually got a pair they are running?

[Mark Henry]

Mark might not know it yet (don't tell him), but he will be fabricating heater boxes for MSDS headers for me and Doug the guy who runs Trackmasters Racing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

I'm doing the same thing, Perry K will have a cow and tell us we're all going to die of CO poisoning. I'm going to run a CO detector just to be safe.
You can get little dot CO detectors for under $10 from Aircraft Spruce and they last 18 months.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/categories/p...edetectors.html

In Canada:
http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/menus/ps/carb...ml?UCOUNTRY=CAN

[JmuRiz]

I'm glad others are looking for a solution...I'll keep my eye out for the MSDS header heater box version. I have those headers for my car too. Unfortunately mine have the ceramic coating, so that might not make as much heat transfer to the boxes.

I was always holding out hope SSI would make a 914/6 heat exchanger now that they are under new management, but no such luck.

[ConeDodger]

Mark might not know it yet (don't tell him), but he will be fabricating heater boxes for MSDS headers for me and Doug the guy who runs Trackmasters Racing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

I'm doing the same thing, Perry K will have a cow and tell us we're all going to die of CO poisoning. I'm going to run a CO detector just to be safe.
You can get little dot CO detectors for under $10 from Aircraft Spruce and they last 18 months.

Perhaps Perry would like to argue with Martin directly and tell him his headers leak?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Mine are ceramic coated as well but I suspect they'll still produce enough heat to defrost the windows. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Mark Henry]

WTF....using the kids machine , must have finger trouble.

[Mark Henry]

Mark might not know it yet (don't tell him), but he will be fabricating heater boxes for MSDS headers for me and Doug the guy who runs Trackmasters Racing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

I'm doing the same thing, Perry K will have a cow and tell us we're all going to die of CO poisoning. I'm going to run a CO detector just to be safe.
You can get little dot CO detectors for under $10 from Aircraft Spruce and they last 18 months.

Perhaps Perry would like to argue with Martin directly and tell him his headers leak?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Mine are ceramic coated as well but I suspect they'll still produce enough heat to defrost the windows. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think Perry's point is that they are not stainless and you could get a rust hole.
I'm going to try to build mine so that they can be taken apart and serviced once and a while. You also have to build them so that the box will not cut through the pipes, plus I do not want to weld onto the pipes.
I'm also going to run one of those cheap CO detectors as insurance.

My bet is the labour cost to figure this out all will be a lot higher than you expect. I'm imagining for a one (or two) off costs as high as the header itself or more.
BTW if it was a simple, no brainer, no liability job don't you think Marty would offer it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

I'll wait till I have a running engine in my car, no time now.

[Mark Henry]

DP

[rick 918-S]

So much about nothing. You wouldn't put a heater box on junk headers. If you run the flaps and the heater is off there is nothing coming through the ducts. When you turn the heater on the fan on there is pressure in the system. The pressure leaks out around the heater boxes at the pass through points blowing fresh air out around the pipes. If you install the heater system as Porsche did with a seal around the engine and pull air from the top of the engine bay as Porsche did you should have no worries.

I have seen 40 year old stainless heat exchangers with holes in the exhaust inside the clam shell covers. It even happens to them. Just be smart about it and don't let your car turn into crap.

[bluhun]

I have had my eye on the Hayward & Scott system for quite some time and would like to put those on my car. Has anyone actually got a pair they are running?

I've been in contact with Hayward & Scott about buying a set for my 3.2 6-cylinder conversion car. I'm currently running the Billy Boat system and am very disappointed in the volume of air and the temperature of the air they deliver. If I go through with it I'll post a comparison of the performance of the two systems.

[bigkensteele]

I just bought a 2.7, so I am somewhat committed to the conversion now. However, I need heat, and I really don't want to rely on seat warmers and blow-dryer motors in the vents.

What I really, really want is to use Marty's MSDS headers, ceramic coated with a removable clamshell type exchanger housing. I will PAY for this solution!

[Cairo94507]

BluHun: I just sent you a PM.

[mepstein]

I was planning on MSDS to get the car running and then H&S later on when the reviews come in. I know one or 2 world members have bought H&S in the past but I'm not sure if they ever got them on their cars. I know the msds will fit perfectly.

Btw - Marty has responded to some random pm's from me from time to time. Truly someone I would buy from.