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How do 911 speedometers differ from 914 ones? |
Aaron Cox |
Jan 8 2005, 09:06 PM
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are they calibrated the same? (early 911 = 914?)
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RAR |
Jan 8 2005, 09:43 PM
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I'm not certain what you're asking, but my '80 SC is marked almost identical to my '74 914. The 911 has an additional line near the zero line, which would be about 10 mph. They are both 30, 60, etc. up to 150 mph.
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Red-Beard |
Jan 8 2005, 09:50 PM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None |
No they are not the same.
The speedo drive worm gear is different, even on the 914/6. They are not very different, and with tire changes, it's almost meaningless. |
URY914 |
Jan 8 2005, 09:53 PM
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The are not the same. The 911 moves up faster and goes higher. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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Aaron Cox |
Jan 8 2005, 10:00 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
so a 911 had bigger tires than a 914? or vise versa?
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Steve |
Jan 9 2005, 02:13 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,571 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
I am in the process of putting in an electric speedometer from a 911 in my car.
There was a really good thread on how to do it with the 914 trans. I bought all the components, just don't have time to do it. The bouncy speedometer and pathetic odometer cable is getting old. |
Gint |
Jan 9 2005, 10:47 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(Steve Posted on Jan 9 2005 @ 01:13 AM) I am in the process of putting in an electric speedometer from a 911 in my car. There was a really good thread on how to do it with the 914 trans. I bought all the components, just don't have time to do it. The bouncy speedometer and pathetic odometer cable is getting old. Exactly where is this thread you speak of? Got a link? |
Reiche |
Jan 9 2005, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jan 8 2005, 07:06 PM) are they calibrated the same? (early 911 = 914?) The calibration comes from a combination of the ring/pinion ratio and the factory tire circumference. Most early 911s have the same 7:31 r/p ratio as the 914, and if the tire circumference is about the same they should work as long as the speedo drive turns at the same rate too. If Red-Beard says they didn't, I defer to his expertise. (But did the factory really engineer the speedo angle drive gears around the speedo gauge gears? Seems bass-ackwards.) It may be close enough to work even if it isn't identical. Hell, how many here have the stock 165SR15 tires on anyway? |
SirAndy |
Jan 9 2005, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(Reiche @ Jan 9 2005, 09:37 AM) Hell, how many here have the stock 165SR15 tires on anyway? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) i use a 944 speedo and it's about the same off as my original 914 speedo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Andy |
Steve |
Jan 9 2005, 01:41 PM
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Here's the link. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...&f=2&t=5851&hl= |
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Steve |
Jan 9 2005, 02:47 PM
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Is the 944 speedo cable operated or electric? If its electric how did you make it work with the 914 trans? |
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SirAndy |
Jan 9 2005, 03:33 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,617 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Steve @ Jan 9 2005, 12:47 PM) Is the 944 speedo cable operated or electric? If its electric how did you make it work with the 914 trans? the one i have is cable operated and the 914 speedo-cable fits just fine ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Andy |
ClayPerrine |
Jan 10 2005, 07:33 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,436 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
There is a sender available from VDO to drive the Electronic speedometer. It's a hall effect sender that is driven off the speedo output location on the trans. I made an adapter for mine out of an old angle drive just last night. I have the box and the angle drive adapter at home and I can take some pictures tonight. I have not figured out the wiring diagram for it yet, but I will.
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Steve |
Jan 10 2005, 10:34 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,571 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jan 10 2005, 05:33 AM) There is a sender available from VDO to drive the Electronic speedometer. It's a hall effect sender that is driven off the speedo output location on the trans. I made an adapter for mine out of an old angle drive just last night. I have the box and the angle drive adapter at home and I can take some pictures tonight. I have not figured out the wiring diagram for it yet, but I will. Clay, Is the part number of your sender? 340 011D V1511010056D The above is what I bought but it still requires an adapter to change it from 16 pulses a second to 8. I bought the ERA controller to solve the problem. |
gregrobbins |
Jan 10 2005, 10:47 PM
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Member: Team NARP Group: Members Posts: 1,515 Joined: 23-March 04 From: Arizona Member No.: 1,844 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The 911 Speedo came in a more expensive package (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif)
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ClayPerrine |
Jan 11 2005, 07:26 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,436 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I honestly don't know. I have the box at home, but I am at work. If it does require an adapter, then I can get one. I have the link to the site you are talking about, but North Hollywood told me it would drive the 911 speedo direct, with just an adapter cable. NOTE: I have not tried it yet. I will check it out and let you know. A test rig in the wife's 914 will tell me if It will work or not. |
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Steve |
Jan 11 2005, 09:59 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,571 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks Clay!!
Just curious. |
Sammy |
Jan 11 2005, 12:05 PM
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Spinal tap fans will like this one:
The 911 speedos go up to eleven (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) (ducking for cover). |
ClayPerrine |
Jan 11 2005, 12:16 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,436 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
QUOTE(Sammy @ Jan 11 2005, 12:05 PM) Spinal tap fans will like this one: The 911 speedos go up to eleven (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (ducking for cover). Does that mean that ours will go to 14? I like the Bill Cosby routine.... "The speedometer went all the way around to 200mph, and underneath that was a little space with the words 'Oh Wow' in it." I want to send my speedo out and have that done to it........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) |
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