LEDs For Front Turnsignal Bucket Options

[Spoke]

Is there anyway to turn the running light off when the turn signal is flashing?
The Audis do that, and it makes it easier to notice the flashing signal.

Either way, great progress.

I thought about adding the blanking feature but some folks mentioned they didn't like it so I left it off. It does simplify the circuit but it could be added if folks thought it is important to blank the running lights when the turn signal is on.

[db9146]

I'm in for a pair of Euros. Nice.

[mikesmith]

I thought about adding the blanking feature but some folks mentioned they didn't like it so I left it off. It does simplify the circuit but it could be added if folks thought it is important to blank the running lights when the turn signal is on.

For folks that want it, there are a number of modules like this one:

http://modifry.com/products/smm/index.htm

that can easily be added if you want the functionality...

[Spoke]

Couple more videos of the front LEDs. This is the Euro version.

First the turnsignals; then just the running light. For the turnsignal, the US lens is on. For the running light, the lens is removed.

I wanted to observe the angle of incidence on the LEDs. These LEDs have 15 degree 1/2 power angle. So for the turnsignals and running lights, I varied the angle of viewing from about +/- 45 degrees from the front of the car. I was about 30 feet away.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEIcKTeHoa0


Now the running light with the US lens off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xe09_u_dSg

[Cairo94507]

WOW! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) Those front LED's are terrific. If people can't see those lights they need a cane.

[Firstcar]

Euro version with the white running lights looks great and is a good safety measure
(and I could stop running with the fogs on all the time). I think the blanking feature makes the turn signal more visible. Now how about an LED for the side marker wart that flashes with the turn signal!

[kid914]

First off, Spoke, you do awesome work at keeping US and our cars safe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) Thank you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
It might still be too early, but would you have an idea on price?
or did I miss it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)

[siverson]

Very nice. I'll be in for a set when ready.

And... are there already rears available? Did I miss that?

-Steve

[clapeza]

I'm in for a Euro set, when available. Awesome work!

Chester

[rnellums]

Not sure if I posted yet, but I love my rear LED's and would love a stock front set to match!

[CptTripps]

As always....they look perfect.

I'm in for Euros when you have them ready. I'll gladly scrap the thing that I built already in favor of these.

[euro911]

Couple more videos of the front LEDs. This is the Euro version.

First the turnsignals; then just the running light. For the turnsignal, the US lens is on. For the running light, the lens is removed.

I wanted to observe the angle of incidence on the LEDs. These LEDs have 15 degree 1/2 power angle. So for the turnsignals and running lights, I varied the angle of viewing from about +/- 45 degrees from the front of the car. I was about 30 feet away.

Now the running light with the US lens off.

Yes, very nice field of view. I likey (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[BuddyV]

914 people are friggin awesome..... thank you for this.

I am in for two when you are ready.

BITCHIN!!!!!!!!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)

[Spoke]

I'd like to ask a favor of anyone interested in the front LED turnsignals: Try this test: Remove one of the front turnsignal bulbs and see if the flasher still works. Also check the dash indicator. Let me know what you find.

A little background; with the rear LED turnsignals some folks have had issues with the flasher either not flashing or the dash indicator not working correctly.

The interaction issues with classic flasher units and the light loads of LED lights is well known in the automotive industry. 2 ways to solve this are replacing the flasher with LED-compatible flasher or adding load resistors in parallel with the LED lights. I would like to find a nice compromise which would require minimum rewiring.

Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[mikesmith]

+1 for a LED-compatible flasher.

[Spoke]

+1 for a LED-compatible flasher.

I only wish it were a simple change. The 914 uses the flasher for the turnsignals as well as the ebrake and MC warning flasher. It also has an output for the dash indicator(s) so they won't flash if the ebrake or MC is flashing.

If changing the flasher, one would have to replace the flasher, then rewire the dash indicator(s).

For the early tachs with L and R indicators, this as simple as grounding the wire going to the K output of the original flasher.

For late tachs with a single indicator, one would have to connect the indicator to both turnsignal wires (on the hazard switch) through a pair of diodes. The diodes would allow the indicator to light whether the R or L turnsignal is on.

If anyone has implemented an LED-compatible flasher, please share your work.

[mikesmith]

If anyone has implemented an LED-compatible flasher, please share your work.

I have a no-name Chinese LED-capable EP26 flasher in a '72. It's a plug-and-play install, no wiring changes required.

I can't speak with authority about the 74+ cars, but the wiring looks comparable.

[lawnvett]

If anyone has implemented an LED-compatible flasher, please share your work.

I have a no-name Chinese LED-capable EP26 flasher in a '72. It's a plug-and-play install, no wiring changes required.

I can't speak with authority about the 74+ cars, but the wiring looks comparable.

My wife and I are new here but please put us down on the list for LED UPGRADES front and back, these look good, the 914 is hers, I drive a MGBGT with a 3.4 V6 and I use LED boards in the MG, really helps our little cars to be seen!

[montoya 73 2.0]

Put me down for euro fronts and possibly a 2nd pair for clear lens.

[Spoke]

I have a no-name Chinese LED-capable EP26 flasher in a '72. It's a plug-and-play install, no wiring changes required.

I can't speak with authority about the 74+ cars, but the wiring looks comparable.

Thanks Mike. Looks like AutoZone stocks this flasher. I'm going to pick one up and do some tests.

EP26 at AutoZone

Good point about the 74+ cars. See the diagram below. The flasher is used to flash the brake warning light for the MC or ebrake. The light load of the brake indicator keeps the turnsignal indicator from flashing. With the EP26 on 74+ cars it would seem the turnsignal indicator would flash with the MC or ebrake indicator.