A couple of wheel questions, lugnut key |
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A couple of wheel questions, lugnut key |
Deep6 |
Apr 4 2014, 07:37 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 6-October 11 From: Austin, Texas Member No.: 13,647 Region Association: None |
I just found this 1972 parts car and trying to figure out what these wheels are and how to remove them to put on a 71.
I would like to find a key to fit these as opposed to just grinding them away if they are a Porsche lugs. Also, does anyone know what these wheels are??? The tires are 195 15 Thanks in advance. George 71 1.7 Austin, Texas |
Dustin |
Apr 4 2014, 07:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 111 Joined: 19-August 10 From: Woodland Hills, CA Member No.: 12,072 Region Association: None |
I don't see the heart.
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Deep6 |
Apr 4 2014, 08:03 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 6-October 11 From: Austin, Texas Member No.: 13,647 Region Association: None |
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bulitt |
Apr 5 2014, 04:25 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
Take a chisel and a BFH and smack em lefty loosey till they come off. Wear your safety glasses.
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smarens |
Apr 5 2014, 01:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 15-March 14 From: Michigan Member No.: 17,121 Region Association: None |
is it a lug on a stud? I can't be sure from the picture, if so you can take a die grinder with cut-off wheel and carefully put a cut in it length wise to remove most of the pressure and chisel idea is excellent, might be easier, I had to do that once on cheap stripped out wheel lock
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carr914 |
Apr 5 2014, 04:23 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,240 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Craftsman makes a Tool to take Wheel Locks off. Before you Fuch up a Whell call around to a few Tire Stores to see if they have a Tool to take them off. When you get them off, throw those Fuchers in the Trash.
Not all Early Fuchs have Hearts! |
ClayPerrine |
Apr 5 2014, 04:37 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,927 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
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ConeDodger |
Apr 5 2014, 04:44 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,836 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Looks like a Mcgard sp? wheel lock.
If it's a real early Fuchs wheel and I would guess it is if it only has a 195 tire on it, the car is came off of and it seems many of the parts, are made almost literally of gold. Sell them... |
Deep6 |
Apr 5 2014, 04:44 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 6-October 11 From: Austin, Texas Member No.: 13,647 Region Association: None |
Craftsman makes a Tool to take Wheel Locks off. Before you Fuch up a Whell call around to a few Tire Stores to see if they have a Tool to take them off. When you get them off, throw those Fuchers in the Trash. Not all Early Fuchs have Hearts! I did check the other wheels and found one where the previous owner attempted to remove one of the locks on a wheel. I ended up using a 3/4 inch Milwaukee whole saw from Home Depot. 45 min. later, I drilled far enough to loosen the bolt. The other three I want to find the proper key or I'm thinking of taking the car to a local machine shop to have them removed?? Turns out the wheels are 15x6 aew, oh well but they are in nice shape. George |
Deep6 |
Apr 5 2014, 05:00 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 6-October 11 From: Austin, Texas Member No.: 13,647 Region Association: None |
Smarens,
it did turned out to be "lug on a stud" |
bandjoey |
Apr 5 2014, 05:15 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,930 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I couldn't find a tool to fit mine. Bought a HF impact socket. BFH to install it. Lots of penetrating oil. Breaker bar. Finally turned it off. Drive it in. Turn.
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campbellcj |
Apr 5 2014, 10:58 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,591 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
That looks like a type of lock that was on my 70 911 when I bought it many many years ago. I had to have them cut-off by a tire shop, and they did it with no damage to th wheels or studs. The name of the lock may come back to me but very hazy right now - I'm thinking "McGuard"?. The only other option floated was to make an impression/mold and cast a new key from it, but that seemed like a giant PITA.
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Deep6 |
Apr 6 2014, 02:48 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 6-October 11 From: Austin, Texas Member No.: 13,647 Region Association: None |
That looks like a type of lock that was on my 70 911 when I bought it many many years ago. I had to have them cut-off by a tire shop, and they did it with no damage to th wheels or studs. The name of the lock may come back to me but very hazy right now - I'm thinking "McGuard"?. The only other option floated was to make an impression/mold and cast a new key from it, but that seemed like a giant PITA. Chris, I believe you are correct, "McGuard" from looking on E-bay, Advance Auto Parts and Auto Zone. In the description it claims "•The computer generated key designs allow for an infinite number of key patterns". So finding a matching key is a waste of time. The problem with the one I removed the stud was loose and spinning because it came unpressed, hopefully the rest won't be so difficult. Thanks all for the suggestions, the cut off with a delicate bfh path will work. |
carr914 |
Apr 6 2014, 05:23 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,240 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Craftsman makes a Tool to take Wheel Locks off. Before you Fuch up a Whell call around to a few Tire Stores to see if they have a Tool to take them off. When you get them off, throw those Fuchers in the Trash. Not all Early Fuchs have Hearts! Turns out the wheels are 15x6 aew, oh well but they are in nice shape. George Of course it is a 15x6 - what did you think it was? |
Deep6 |
Apr 6 2014, 11:54 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 6-October 11 From: Austin, Texas Member No.: 13,647 Region Association: None |
Craftsman makes a Tool to take Wheel Locks off. Before you Fuch up a Whell call around to a few Tire Stores to see if they have a Tool to take them off. When you get them off, throw those Fuchers in the Trash. Not all Early Fuchs have Hearts! Turns out the wheels are 15x6 aew, oh well but they are in nice shape. George Of course it is a 15x6 - what did you think it was? hoping for fuchs |
dan_the _body_guy |
Apr 6 2014, 02:44 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 1-April 14 From: cleveland ohio Member No.: 17,185 Region Association: None |
the easiest way ive found to remove wheel locks is to weld a nut with slightly larger threads in top of the lock then just use a socket and breaker bar to spin them off..a quick work of caution: cover the wheel with something before welding so you dont get slag melted to it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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ClayPerrine |
Apr 6 2014, 07:26 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,927 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
the easiest way ive found to remove wheel locks is to weld a nut with slightly larger threads in top of the lock then just use a socket and breaker bar to spin them off..a quick work of caution: cover the wheel with something before welding so you dont get slag melted to it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) I just use a nice, sharp air chisel...... |
smarens |
Apr 8 2014, 08:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 15-March 14 From: Michigan Member No.: 17,121 Region Association: None |
well did it come off yet?
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Deep6 |
Apr 11 2014, 08:21 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 6-October 11 From: Austin, Texas Member No.: 13,647 Region Association: None |
Daily shot of P.B blaster and a sharp chisel was all it needed to persuade the other 3 off.
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sixnotfour |
Apr 11 2014, 08:41 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,651 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Good Job.. patience is a virtue...Congrats
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