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fduval
post Apr 5 2014, 02:06 PM
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Hi , I am new to the 914 ownership, just bought the car from member KADUKU !
The rear end of the car is kind of very soft, I guess
the rear shocks need to be replaced, what do you guys recommend for street use .
The car is a 1973 with a 2 liter engine.
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:11 PM
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I'm in the same boat, are you looking at doing just shocks or springs also? I've see a lot about not using KYB, good things about Bilstein and upgrading to 100lb springs over stock 90lb, I'm thinking of doing mine myself but need to get a spring compressor, sorry to not have expert advice but that is just what I have read so far
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:19 PM
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I'm in the same boat, are you looking at doing just shocks or springs also? I've see a lot about not using KYB, good things about Bilstein and upgrading to 100lb springs over stock 90lb, I'm thinking of doing mine myself but need to get a spring compressor, sorry to not have expert advice but that is just what I have read so far


I guess I should do both ! 100 lbs spring seems to be a good improvement
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:31 PM
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The upgrade to 100lb springs is common & as for the shocks I'd go with Bilstein. I prefer them over either Boge & Koni for daily use, but that's just me.
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:35 PM
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The upgrade to 100lb springs is common & as for the shocks I'd go with Bilstein. I prefer them over either Boge & Koni for daily use, but that's just me.



Thanks for the welcome Johny
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:37 PM
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I did it myself with boge's and 100 springs and dropped by my local mechanic and he compressed the springs for no charge. Took him 2 minutes.
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:43 PM
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If you want a really good setup, get a set of adjustable perches, springs and shock from ground control.
Based on your application they will calculate exactly what you need.

I also have a set of stock "barely used" springs, and a set of new weltmeister 180lb springs that I dont need.

I even have a decent set of Koni adjustable shocks, but messed up the threads at the top of one of them.
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post Apr 5 2014, 04:20 PM
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post Apr 5 2014, 05:31 PM
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Lots of auto parts stores will lend spring compressors, that's what i did
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I did it myself with boge's and 100 springs and dropped by my local mechanic and he compressed the springs for no charge. Took him 2 minutes.



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This is what I did. Just make sure your control arm bushings aren't shot. Otherwise all for not....... doesn't matter what shock you use.
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post Apr 6 2014, 08:36 AM
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I am very happy with Billsteins for my street/DD car.

I stuck with my stock springs. I highly recommend replacing your springs "while you are in there" as I have noticed some sag in the rear of the car. I'm going to pick up a new set of springs to be installed next time I drop the trailing arms.

For a street car I think 80-100 lb springs with a good set of shocks is a nice setup.
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post Apr 6 2014, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(smarens @ Apr 5 2014, 04:11 PM) *

I'm in the same boat, are you looking at doing just shocks or springs also? I've see a lot about not using KYB, good things about Bilstein and upgrading to 100lb springs over stock 90lb, I'm thinking of doing mine myself but need to get a spring compressor, sorry to not have expert advice but that is just what I have read so far



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Lots of auto parts stores will lend spring compressors, that's what i did


You don't need Spring Compressors!

Take off bolts in Trunk, Jack up the Rear of the car, the Springs & Shocks will drop. Un-do bottom Shock Bolt, take off. Reverse the proceedure & you are done!
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post Apr 6 2014, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(smarens @ Apr 5 2014, 04:11 PM) *

I'm in the same boat, are you looking at doing just shocks or springs also? I've see a lot about not using KYB, good things about Bilstein and upgrading to 100lb springs over stock 90lb, I'm thinking of doing mine myself but need to get a spring compressor, sorry to not have expert advice but that is just what I have read so far



QUOTE(barefoot @ Apr 5 2014, 07:31 PM) *

Lots of auto parts stores will lend spring compressors, that's what i did


You don't need Spring Compressors!

Take off bolts in Trunk, Jack up the Rear of the car, the Springs & Shocks will drop. Un-do bottom Shock Bolt, take off. Reverse the proceedure & you are done!

I needed them compressed to get the bolt back on the shock with the new springs. I could get it close but after a half hour of trying I drove the 2 miles to the shop and got it done.
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post Apr 6 2014, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(smarens @ Apr 5 2014, 04:11 PM) *

I'm in the same boat, are you looking at doing just shocks or springs also? I've see a lot about not using KYB, good things about Bilstein and upgrading to 100lb springs over stock 90lb, I'm thinking of doing mine myself but need to get a spring compressor, sorry to not have expert advice but that is just what I have read so far



QUOTE(barefoot @ Apr 5 2014, 07:31 PM) *

Lots of auto parts stores will lend spring compressors, that's what i did


You don't need Spring Compressors!

Take off bolts in Trunk, Jack up the Rear of the car, the Springs & Shocks will drop. Un-do bottom Shock Bolt, take off. Reverse the proceedure & you are done!

I needed them compressed to get the bolt back on the shock with the new springs. I could get it close but after a half hour of trying I drove the 2 miles to the shop and got it done.


If you had sat in the Trunk, your weight would have compressed the Springs and you would have gotten the nut on
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post Apr 6 2014, 05:46 PM
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I did this today, bilsteins to replace kyb, s and 100lbs. springs. set clip second to top position on shock body and assemble, no spring compressor needed. no spring compressor needed to disassemble the kyb's either.
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post Apr 6 2014, 08:10 PM
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Are you guys replacing the bump stops and if so where did you get them?

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post Apr 7 2014, 05:06 AM
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Are you guys replacing the bump stops and if so where did you get them?

John


The Koni Competition bump rubbers may be worth considering.
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post Apr 7 2014, 06:05 AM
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I reused the bumpstops as they were ok
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post Apr 7 2014, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(smarens @ Apr 5 2014, 04:11 PM) *

I'm in the same boat, are you looking at doing just shocks or springs also? I've see a lot about not using KYB, good things about Bilstein and upgrading to 100lb springs over stock 90lb, I'm thinking of doing mine myself but need to get a spring compressor, sorry to not have expert advice but that is just what I have read so far



QUOTE(barefoot @ Apr 5 2014, 07:31 PM) *

Lots of auto parts stores will lend spring compressors, that's what i did


You don't need Spring Compressors!

Take off bolts in Trunk, Jack up the Rear of the car, the Springs & Shocks will drop. Un-do bottom Shock Bolt, take off. Reverse the proceedure & you are done!


I needed them compressed to get the bolt back on the shock with the new springs. I could get it close but after a half hour of trying I drove the 2 miles to the shop and got it done.


If you had sat in the Trunk, your weight would have compressed the Springs and you would have gotten the nut on


Thanks for that handy hint - tried it earlier and worked a treat - much easier than using spring compressors!!

Any handy hints for changing the front inserts? (sorry for the hijack but did a quick search and couldnt seem to find a post on how to go about this)

Thanks
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post Apr 7 2014, 04:14 PM
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Any handy hints for changing the front inserts? (sorry for the hijack but did a quick search and couldnt seem to find a post on how to go about this)

Thanks


Easy. We wrote this years ago...kind of generic but I think you'll get the idea:


https://www.paragon-products.com/kb_results.asp?ID=1
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