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AfricanHijinx
post Apr 5 2014, 07:56 PM
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hey Guys I started to cut out the rusted corner on the passenger side and found all of this, whats the best way to fix this?

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can I just patch in some new metal here?
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post Apr 5 2014, 08:04 PM
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hey Guys I started to cut out the rusted corner on the passenger side and found all of this, whats the best way to fix this?

can I just patch in some new metal here?


You should probably cut some more out of the long. You are going to need to see deeper. Get the car well supported on that side and cut more. How does the hell hole look? Could be that acid got down in there and ate from the inside.

The floor will be a patch, but you need to take care of the long first.
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post Apr 5 2014, 08:50 PM
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hell hole was bad, I cut that out too. Also the fire wall behind the HH was crispy so I cut and replaced that.

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post Apr 5 2014, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(AfricanHijinx @ Apr 5 2014, 09:56 PM) *

hey Guys I started to cut out the rusted corner on the passenger side and found all of this, whats the best way to fix this?

here are my longs

can I just patch in some new metal here?

been doing auto body for 27 years, not to sound like a smart ass but if youre asking others if you can add metal im guessing you dont know how to fix it correctly yourself. the longs are the main structure or frame of this car your best bet is to get it cleaned up with a small sandblaster and see what you have left to work with. it should be braced at some point before you start removing too much metal and or welding on it to keep the body from flexing...then you can start to dig in and see how far you need to cut to find solid metal to weld to. good luck to you
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post Apr 6 2014, 09:35 AM
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I guess my question was if I could patch it instead of replacing the whole long. it looks like that there is a structure tube then a skin around it. the inside tube is solid just a little bit of surface rust
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:41 PM
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I guess my question was if I could patch it instead of replacing the whole long. it looks like that there is a structure tube then a skin around it. the inside tube is solid just a little bit of surface rust

thats entirely up to you but you need to remove the rott first then cut out thin weak metal and coat it with a weld thru coating before you can weld anything. at that point you will know how far to replace and you can determine the easiest way weather it be patching, sectioning from a donor or replacing the panel
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:50 PM
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FIRST you need to brace the car up extremely well. Not only in the door jambs, but you need to tie the rear of the car to the passenger compartment. Once you get to cutting the rot out from the side, the weight of the rear clip is going to want to take over. Once enough metal is cut out, the rear is going to start sagging
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FIRST you need to brace the car up extremely well. Not only in the door jambs, but you need to tie the rear of the car to the passenger compartment. Once you get to cutting the rot out from the side, the weight of the rear clip is going to want to take over. Once enough metal is cut out, the rear is going to start sagging


Scotty - You need to show him how that's done, on a red car with flares. LOL!
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Apr 6 2014, 10:57 AM) *

QUOTE(scotty b @ Apr 6 2014, 02:50 PM) *

FIRST you need to brace the car up extremely well. Not only in the door jambs, but you need to tie the rear of the car to the passenger compartment. Once you get to cutting the rot out from the side, the weight of the rear clip is going to want to take over. Once enough metal is cut out, the rear is going to start sagging


Scotty - You need to show him how that's done, on a red car with flares. LOL!

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What they said!!! Ouch. I just finished a somewhat similar repair . New floorpan , and lots of patching and fabricating in the hellhole. First get a big helping of patience. Then make sure you get ALL that rusty shit out. It really sucks to get a repair panel almost finished and then , on that last little weld, Psht. It just vaporizes!!!! Aaaay!!! Be aware that most of that is two seperate pieces of sheet metal. Then check out Restoration Design I'm very happy with the pieces I got from them. And donor panels Good luck with that. My car was garage kept for 16 years in the NW and it still had a lot a rot. Good luck.
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