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> Picked up a 912, opinions?
David Stowers
post Apr 20 2014, 03:45 PM
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Put a six cylinder Porsche engine in, 2.4, 2.7, 3.0, 3.2. It deserves it, please don't hack lumps out of it to put a Subaru engine in it.
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post Apr 20 2014, 04:16 PM
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Sounds from your post like you plan to build something to sell.

Not too familiar with 912 prices, but I know the 911 bubble has dragged them up. Looks like a money pit right now, who knows though, 10 years from now it might be worth 2014 911T barn find money (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Might be worth looking at what it will cost to drop a 6 in it and do all the other necessary upgrades. The 911 market is so crazy right now that a lot of people priced out of it will be willing to forgive the fact this started life as a 912 and pay good money if you build it into a nice "911" hotrod. At that point the originality won't matter just the quality of the build.
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post Apr 20 2014, 04:22 PM
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I'd turn it into a street legal 911 GT1, the only mid engine 911 ever made, but I'm a bit eccentric... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Apr 20 2014, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(David Stowers @ Apr 20 2014, 01:45 PM) *

please don't hack lumps out of it to put a Subaru engine in it.



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post Apr 20 2014, 09:32 PM
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I remeber my barn find 1967 912. It had a rat living in the smugglers box. Had to rebuild the calipers, frozen. After that it was just a lot of detailing and cleaning.
It was as much fun as all of the 911s that I have owned and driven. Personally I would embrace the stock 912restoration. The 912 registry is an excellent place to find out more information and supplier and vendors contacts.
Good luck with your project.
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post Apr 20 2014, 10:51 PM
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post Apr 21 2014, 04:46 AM
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I would just stash it away and wait for Early 912s to go higher in price
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post Apr 21 2014, 04:53 AM
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I have a fresh 2.4/6 that I don't have a use for.. Was just going to make it look pretty and put it in my office at home, on a stand…. You need it more than I do! :-)
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post Apr 21 2014, 08:27 AM
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I'm thinking that, for resale value, having a 912 engine (not a 912E engine) would be the best.

If it's not for resale, figure out what makes you grin the hardest and go for it...

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post Apr 21 2014, 09:42 AM
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A close approximation of the factory product will always have good value,that said the expenses to get there makes it hard to justify.
I have a '72 914 engine+tx that would fit midway!
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post May 3 2014, 06:12 AM
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Curious, are will the normal 912 engine mounts work for a type IV conversion on the 912?
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post May 3 2014, 07:03 AM
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I have, sitting behind my house, a 68 912. It is destined to become a 912-6 when I get time to work on it.

Yellow paint job, upgraded brakes to vented disks, and a 2.4L six in it. I have all the parts in my garage for the engine and trans. I just need a set of 40IDA3c carbs and manifolds. Or maybe I will go megasquirt with it.

But I am making a 912-6 badge for the back, just to piss off the Porsche purists.
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post May 3 2014, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(thomasotten @ Apr 19 2014, 07:34 PM) *

An immediate question I have is on the viability of putting in a type IV engine in the car. It just seems that would be easier to find than an original 912/356 engine. But would that hurt the resale?
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The ShopTalkForums have plenty of info concerning Type 4 912 conversions, but you may have to dig a bit. One forum member, Griznant, did a nice conversion and made multiple posts concerning it. Several of the regulars from 914World made comments as well. This was years ago, wow time flies. Try the following links. You may have to register to access all features on the site.

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.ph...788&start=0

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/search.php?a...37&sr=posts

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/memberlist.p...ofile&u=337

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/index.php
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post May 3 2014, 07:44 AM
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If you try to fix it up to sell, you will be upside down, even if you got the car for free. If you want to make money, wholesale it, that is, sell it in its present condition for more than you paid. -no risk, all profit, aka- flip
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post May 3 2014, 07:49 AM
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It's definitely a money pit....all restorations are! If you need replacement sheet metal Restoration Design is a great place for advice and parts.

http://www.restoration-design.com/mm5/merc...ry_Code=911-CHA

912 values most likely will go up and I agree that putting a Porsche 6 is the route of choice unless you are going for a full restoration to bring it back to it's original glory. I would consider talking to Jake about his 2.4. He is well respected in the community. I have a buddy here in Florida who has a 912 and he is nearing the end of his restoration and loves the car! Just decide what your budget and overall goal is and go for it...then, along the way you can just adopt the US Navy's thinking..."A plan is simply a basis for change"! Have fun!!
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post May 3 2014, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(thomasotten @ May 3 2014, 08:12 AM) *

Curious, are will the normal 912 engine mounts work for a type IV conversion on the 912?

No, and yes.

There is a rear bar for the 912-e that you need.
That is the one year with the type 4 motor, so it won't be simple to find, but if you look at one, you might be able to make it.

There is also 912-e engine tin, again for the type 4

The 912-e was a one year only 1976 car.
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post May 3 2014, 04:30 PM
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Not only was the 912E a one-year car, but there were only 2099 of them made. I'll let you figure out how likely you are to find parts from one.

It's probably easier to fabricate your own mount, which will go to the stock mounting points.

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post May 3 2014, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Apr 20 2014, 09:51 PM) *

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post May 3 2014, 07:00 PM
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$$$ no object? Go Polo! 4cyl based on the 6. Bring big money, tho!
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post May 4 2014, 08:53 AM
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Thanks for the links.

On ebay right now: This awesome car seems to utilize the bus motor mount.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-912-912-91...=US_Cars_Trucks
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