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Re-doing all my locks, How to get this done? |
boxsterfan |
May 6 2014, 07:53 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
So, my key doesn't work on the front trunk lock, glove box lock, rear trunk lock and passenger door lock. Only the ignition and driver door locks work.
For some reason, now my drivers door lock stopped working. I can lock it, but I can't unlock it. Luckily I had my targa top off today although I got some strange looks from people as I climbed into the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) So how can I get all new locks around the car? I would certainly like to get them all keyed the same (would skip the glove box altogether if I needed to be a CSOB). |
Kirmizi |
May 6 2014, 08:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
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jim_hoyland |
May 6 2014, 08:03 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,323 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
So, my key doesn't work on the front trunk lock, glove box lock, rear trunk lock and passenger door lock. Only the ignition and driver door locks work. For some reason, now my drivers door lock stopped working. I can lock it, but I can't unlock it. Luckily I had my targa top off today although I got some strange looks from people as I climbed into the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) So how can I get all new locks around the car? I would certainly like to get them all keyed the same (would skip the glove box altogether if I needed to be a CSOB). Reconfiguring the locks so you only use one key is easy. There is an excellent thread by markB showing how to do it. |
jim_hoyland |
May 6 2014, 08:05 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,323 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
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boxsterfan |
May 6 2014, 08:29 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks for the replies.
I put up a WTB ad for a full lock set after looking in the classifieds and seeing some that have been sold there before. I also see that "tweet" does some rekey services or sells the tumblers and springs so that you can do it yourself. |
mepstein |
May 6 2014, 08:35 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,317 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks for the replies. I put up a WTB ad for a full lock set after looking in the classifieds and seeing some that have been sold there before. I also see that "tweet" does some rekey services or sells the tumblers and springs so that you can do it yourself. pm tweet. he'll help you diy or send it to him to do it all. He is a pleasure to do business with. |
Elliot Cannon |
May 6 2014, 10:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
My experience has been, if your door locks are not working properly, (locking not locking) it may be they simply need to be cleaned up. I had trouble with my drivers side just recently. It would lock but not always unlock and sometimes it wouldn't open even when it wasn't locked. I look the latch assembly out of the door, cleaned it up with solvent, turns out it was really gummed up. lubed it, put it back in the door and now it works great. Once you get all the locks keyed the same, take some time to clean the latch assemblies and lubricate them. Makes a big difference.
Cheers, Elliot |
toolguy |
May 6 2014, 10:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,270 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
Chances are you're dealing with old worn keys. or a new copy made off a worn key. . .
Here is a little trick. . insert the key in a tumbler. . disassemble the lock, removing the tumblers from the unit with the key inserted. . now look at the brass plate inserts. . you'll probably see one or two that stick up a little, preventing the tumbler assy from turning freely in the lock. . carefully file those so all the brass plates are even with the tumbler body on both sides. . spray with cleaner and oil afterward. . Reassemble and install back in the car. . should work properly if the pins were the problem. . If still hard to turn, clean and lube the lock latch assembly. . don't pull the key out because all the brass plates and a bunch of tiny springs will pop out |
mobymutt |
May 7 2014, 05:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 550 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
Sounds similar to the problem I had when I bought my car. Turns out I had a valet key. I got a new master key (from Tweet), got it cut at a locksmith, and all my locks magically worked!
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jaxdream |
May 7 2014, 09:12 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 974 Joined: 8-July 08 From: North Central Tennessee Member No.: 9,270 Region Association: South East States |
I agree with contacting tweet , he's got the stuff. As I recall McMark also has the waffers for sale , either one could do it for you . Just be aware if your locks have the "Valet " waffers in them , usually 3 out of the 5 , normally the glove box , front trunk, rear trunk also , only the master ,black headed , key will work all locks . You could also have them rewaffered to use both the master and valet if you perfer, just a matter of not putting in the valet waffers in certain locks , as in today's time I wouldn't let some valet parker park my car . Your call , and yes to cleaning up the door mechanisims goes a loooong way to proper operation.
Jack |
Moneypit |
May 7 2014, 09:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 4-January 06 From: Georgetown, TX Member No.: 5,360 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Is there an ideal lubricant for the latches and hinges and stuff? I'm going to do a re-key, replace the door handle cams, and need to really clean up and lube the handles. I always could use some of the Slip-2000 EWL from my M4, but I figure something actually intended for door handles might work better than rifle lube. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)
Then again, that stuff worked wonders on the hinges in the apartment. No more squeaking when I sneak out in the morning for work. |
ben*james |
May 7 2014, 06:16 PM
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LIFER Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-February 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 10,062 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
So, my key doesn't work on the front trunk lock, glove box lock, rear trunk lock and passenger door lock. Only the ignition and driver door locks work. For some reason, now my drivers door lock stopped working. I can lock it, but I can't unlock it. Luckily I had my targa top off today although I got some strange looks from people as I climbed into the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) So how can I get all new locks around the car? I would certainly like to get them all keyed the same (would skip the glove box altogether if I needed to be a CSOB). Did I only send the valet key?.... Whoops (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Seriously, that always drove me nuts as well. I hope you get it resolved. Best, |
mepstein |
May 7 2014, 07:17 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,317 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Is there an ideal lubricant for the latches and hinges and stuff? I'm going to do a re-key, replace the door handle cams, and need to really clean up and lube the handles. I always could use some of the Slip-2000 EWL from my M4, but I figure something actually intended for door handles might work better than rifle lube. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) Then again, that stuff worked wonders on the hinges in the apartment. No more squeaking when I sneak out in the morning for work. Bike chain lube. Get the thick stuff and put on all the pivots and wear points. Lube up all the pull cables (front trunk and engine lid) as well. |
JmuRiz |
May 7 2014, 07:37 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,434 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I know I'm too impatient to DIY mine, so when I get there I'll send mine to tweet.
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Black22 |
May 7 2014, 09:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 886 Joined: 1-November 07 From: Creswell, OR Member No.: 8,290 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Chances are you're dealing with old worn keys. or a new copy made off a worn key. . . Here is a little trick. . . carefully file those so all the brass plates are even with the tumbler body on both sides. . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) C'mon Bruce! With all the pristine parts you sell, you offer up this hack!?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT do this to your locks! Call someone who knows what they are doing. A locksmith...like ME! Get a new key cut. Don't modify your lock cylinder to work with a worn key. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) No matter how much of a CSOB you may be. |
tweet |
Jun 22 2014, 01:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
Is there an ideal lubricant for the latches and hinges and stuff? I'm going to do a re-key, replace the door handle cams, and need to really clean up and lube the handles. I always could use some of the Slip-2000 EWL from my M4, but I figure something actually intended for door handles might work better than rifle lube. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) Then again, that stuff worked wonders on the hinges in the apartment. No more squeaking when I sneak out in the morning for work. I use silicone grease (sparingly) and silicone spray. Silicone is safe to use on the inner seals. Other lubricants that are solvent based petroleum products degrade rubber, plastic, etc. |
stugray |
Jun 22 2014, 01:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
One problem we have with these old locks is that someone used graphite in the lock.
This is fine IF done properly. If the lock has had petroleum products used previously and then you try to use graphite, it makes a paste and gums up quickly. The only time you should use graphite on locks is if new or taken out and cleaned properly. Taking the entire assembly out and cleaning the entire assembly while having the locks rekeyed is the correct fix. And..... why did you have to climb in? Couldnt you just reach inside and......Unlock the door? |
rmdinmd |
Jun 22 2014, 07:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 30-October 13 From: Greeneville,Tn Member No.: 16,585 Region Association: South East States |
If you clean the door latch make sure you lube it real good.
I had cleaned mine but did "too good" of a job and it got hard to open. In fact I was not able to open the doors one day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) and then got lucky. I soaked them in penetrating oil (bought a gallon of pb blaster) for a few hours. they work great now, in fact better then at any time since I have had the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) So if and when you clean the latch make sure you lube it up really well. Rekeying is easy and tweet is good to work with and has the parts. |
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