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Factory built 914-6 turbo? |
SirAndy |
May 8 2014, 03:12 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Anyone else read the article in the current Panorama where Valentin Schäffer mentions that Porsche had him (secretly) build two turbo cars in 1970, one 911 and one 914-6?
I wonder what ever happened to that car and if anyone out there has some more info on it ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
JmuRiz |
May 8 2014, 03:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,427 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I saw that too, never heard about it before...a test mule for the 930. That would be an insanely cool car!
If they still have it, it must be in their annex building. |
stugray |
May 8 2014, 03:17 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
My guess is that the 914-6 put the 911 to shame and they had it destroyed before anyone found out...
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Madswede |
May 8 2014, 03:37 PM
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Flat Out Driver Group: Members Posts: 853 Joined: 13-September 06 From: Rio Rancho NM Member No.: 6,831 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
My guess is that the 914-6 put the 911 to shame and they had it destroyed before anyone found out... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
damesandhotrods |
May 8 2014, 03:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 568 Joined: 26-September 10 From: Santa Cruz California Member No.: 12,218 Region Association: Northern California |
If Porsche already had two turbo test mules in 1970, then I am rather shocked that Donohue had to spend so much time on the 917/10’s turbos.
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SirAndy |
May 8 2014, 04:09 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
If Porsche already had two turbo test mules in 1970, then I am rather shocked that Donohue had to spend so much time on the 917/10’s turbos. According to the article, the initial interest and reason for using the 911 and 914-6 as test mules was that Porsche was getting their asses kicked locally by BMW's 2002 turbo cars. Apparently, they used this initial research as the platform for their later turbo engines. This sounds like there could be an interesting story in there somewhere ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
Ferg |
May 8 2014, 04:20 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
My guess is that the 914-6 put the 911 to shame and they had it destroyed before anyone found out... And now we can all assume it was Porsche themselves that first said "you can't turbo a 914" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
SirAndy |
May 8 2014, 04:26 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
And now we can all assume it was Porsche themselves that first said "you can't turbo a 914" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Actually, what they really said was: "You can't turbo a 914! But we can ..." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
JmuRiz |
May 8 2014, 07:28 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,427 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
They found the TAG F1 engine'd 930 right? I'm guessing someone might 'find' this turbo 914.
Chappy, is this what gave you the motivation on your car? |
iamchappy |
May 8 2014, 07:43 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
This is the first time I've heard about Porsche building a turbo 914, my motivation was why they hadn't done it... So I did, and am very happy I did..
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iamchappy |
May 8 2014, 07:47 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I would love to see how they did it.
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horizontally-opposed |
May 14 2014, 12:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Apparently, they used this initial research as the platform for their later turbo engines. This sounds like there could be an interesting story in there somewhere ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Yep! Unfortunately, no art, drawings, photos, etc. exist to go with this. I'll look into it further when I'm next in Germany, since this is unusual, but already requested the obvious from the obvious players. Was super bummed there was not something more...as I was fascinated by Schaffer's recollection... Hope you're well, Andy! pete |
get off my lawn |
May 14 2014, 03:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 18-August 11 From: west coast Member No.: 13,462 Region Association: None |
Secret spy photo of prototype turbo system>
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carr914 |
May 14 2014, 06:17 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,670 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I'll send an eMail off to Jurgen Barth and see what he knows
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ottox914 |
May 14 2014, 07:37 PM
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The glory that once was. Group: Members Posts: 1,302 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Mahtomedi, MN Member No.: 1,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
What? You CAN turbo a 914? i'd LOVE to learn more about this. Pics would be amazing-
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GregAmy |
May 15 2014, 07:54 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,302 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
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Dave_Darling |
May 15 2014, 08:10 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Sorry, Greg, you've just run into a long-standing joke in the 914 world...
--DD |
rick 918-S |
May 15 2014, 08:45 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,460 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Sorry, Greg, you've just run into a long-standing joke in the 914 world... --DD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Greg, it's a standing joke around here whenever anyone brings up the conversation someone will always post: " You can't turbo a 914" It has been done successfully for years with kits available in the late 70's I think. But Chappy took his car to a whole new level with a twin plug 6 that will make guys like us look 16 again when he hits the loud peddle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yikes.gif) all the wrinkles go right to the back of our heads. |
Woody |
May 15 2014, 09:08 AM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sorry, Greg, you've just run into a long-standing joke in the 914 world... --DD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
iamchappy |
May 15 2014, 09:31 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Ric your funny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Here are pictures of my turbo for those of you that haven't followed my build from the past. Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
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