 Replacement Headlights, Cibe Z beam reproductions |
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| gandalf_025 |
 May 27 2014, 03:47 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,450 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States  |
Back in the early days, I bought a pair of Cibe Z beam headlights. I put a pair of high watt bulbs in them and they were way better than the other lights available then.
When I took my car apart to prep it to go for paint last year, I removed the headlights and found the reflectors had corroded bad enough that I questioned if they were worth saving. The lenses are fine, but even trying to get the reflectors rechromed was way too much money. I have been looking for 7" lights that I could swap the reflectors onto my lenses and came across a place that makes a repro of the Z Beams. I ordered a pair, about 20.00 each plus shipping. I should have them in a day or so. At that price, it is worth it to me just for the reflectors, but if the lenses really are a copy of the early Cibe lenses They might be worth having. I won't have my car back together for quite a while, so I have no idea of they are anywhere near as good as the originals.. but if someone is looking for a set of replacement headlights these might be worth 20.00 each to find out . here is a link to the web page I ordered them from. http://classicgarage.com/7rounheadwit.html |
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| damesandhotrods |
May 27 2014, 04:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 568 Joined: 26-September 10 From: Santa Cruz California Member No.: 12,218 Region Association: Northern California |
I had a pair of Cibié headlights in an MGB-GT and they were the best head lights ever. I drive my 914 at night, and being on the coast I have run into fog. New headlights and possible fog lights are on my list of things to do. But I am going to spring for the real thing, they are worth it…
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| gandalf_025 |
May 27 2014, 04:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,450 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(damesandhotrods @ May 27 2014, 06:19 PM)  I had a pair of Cibié headlights in an MGB-GT and they were the best head lights ever. I drive my 914 at night, and being on the coast I have run into fog. New headlights and possible fog lights are on my list of things to do. But I am going to spring for the real thing, they are worth it… The original Z beams have been out of production for a number of years. Finding a used pair or a set of NOS won't be cheap. For the cost involved, these repros are at least worth checking out. |
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| green914 |
May 27 2014, 05:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,467 Joined: 29-March 11 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 12,874 Region Association: Northern California |
Do the Cibie lenses cast out a brighter light, or for a longer distance? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| r_towle |
May 27 2014, 06:33 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,564 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States 
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QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ May 27 2014, 05:47 PM) When I took my car apart to prep it to go for paint last year. Last year, really? Find a decent place yet? |
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| anderssj |
May 27 2014, 07:26 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,652 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(green914 @ May 27 2014, 07:37 PM) Do the Cibie lenses cast out a brighter light, or for a longer distance? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) More even spread in front of the car, with a sharp cutoff. E-code h4s have a flat horizontal cutoff on the left side of the beam pattern and about a 20-degree rise to the right to illuminate pedestrians, road signs, etc. The Z-beam truncates the rise on the right with a second, but higher flat cutoff--looks king of like a flattened backwards "Z." I'll see if I can find a picture of the patterns. If you can find Marchal or Carello lights, they're good too! |
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| anderssj |
May 27 2014, 07:38 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,652 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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OK, pictures . . .
e-code:  z-beam:  Hope this helps! Steve A- |
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| gandalf_025 |
May 28 2014, 05:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,450 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 27 2014, 08:33 PM) QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ May 27 2014, 05:47 PM) When I took my car apart to prep it to go for paint last year. Last year, really? Find a decent place yet? Well, maybe I took the headlights apart last year.... Still haven't found a shop to take it, but I'll keep looking. |
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| Mark Henry |
May 28 2014, 08:25 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(anderssj @ May 27 2014, 09:38 PM) OK, pictures . . . e-code: z-beam: Hope this helps! Steve A- neo light (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i63.photobucket.com-26-1401287122.1.jpg) |
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| green914 |
May 28 2014, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,467 Joined: 29-March 11 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 12,874 Region Association: Northern California |
The pics are great help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I think the neo light looked the best.
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| bandjoey |
May 28 2014, 12:35 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,923 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Thanks for the info. Update after installing yours. Do they require more power or relays? Plug and play?
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| gandalf_025 |
May 28 2014, 12:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,450 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
My problem is I won't have my car back together for a LONG time..
I have no idea when.. So I can't speak for the quality of the repro lenses. In my situation, I was already ahead buying these because I can take my original Cibe's apart and just use the reflectors from these with my old lenses. I couldn't find a set of plain reflectors for 20.00 each. These arrived today and even had a pair of H4 55/60 bulbs with them. Looks like these NeoLites are made in India. I used to run the 55/60's in my car without relays, years ago.. I put relays in when I went to 100/130's later on. |
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