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> Attn. PCA Bay Area Autocrossers!, Post your class/specs here for '05!
nebreitling
post Jan 16 2005, 04:29 PM
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Gotta get myself reved up to finish my car... Let's see who we're competing with!


Post your class both by letter-system and the new points system:


Nathan Breitling 75 914 2.0

Fm (gulp) and AX6 (705 points -- just barely missed AX7, now i have to compete with Demick (gulp again))

specs:

dot r's, wider wheels, race-seat, non-stock bumpers, carbs, 9.5:1 compression, hot cam, stock bore/stroke, headers, 21 front sway, stock rear sway, rear springs 140#s (may tweek susp more).

let's see it, peeps! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif)

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post Jan 16 2005, 05:14 PM
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Trekkor Wills 1974 914-6 2.0 FM A/X7(660 pts)

Webers
headers
lightened flywheel and pressure plate with H/D springs
31mm Front bar SRP
stock rear bar
150# rear springs ( may use 200#'s )
Koni shocks-yellows
turbo tie rods
competition wheel alignment
DOT-r race tires, Yoko's or Hoosiers ( depending on my mood). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) 205/50/15
chassis stiffening
race Harnesses
race steering wheel

I'm ready...

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post Jan 16 2005, 05:43 PM
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damn, how did you slip in under me in points??!!!

looks good, trekkor. Fm's going to be a lot of fun, it looks like. Andy, yourself, and me as the 3 "intermediate" drivers, up against Demick, Randal, and John Seidell. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)
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post Jan 16 2005, 06:08 PM
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Fm is shaping up to be a competetive class this year (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

Here's my info:
Demick Boyden
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AX6 (710 points)

Car has 2056cc motor, d-jet, 15x6 wheels, DOT-R tires, 180lb rear springs, 19mm front bar. That's about it.

If the new points system ever goes into effect, I might try and lose a few points. Stupid stuff like non-stock front air dam costs points, but does nothing for autox performance.

Demick

P.S. I think we need to audit Trekkor's points. How can he have only 660 points when he's got all the stuff I do plus a six!
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post Jan 16 2005, 06:21 PM
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awesome, demick. i think you and i are a bit out-classed in AX6 (there are 2-996 turbos on dot-r's in AX6!) -- i too would think about trying to lose the 5 points that put me in AX6 if those rules become official. if i run the fuchs instead of my 3-piece wheels, that would do it...

is the Bp contingent still on the board?


p.s. trekkor -- don't you need to add like a hundred points for the 2 extra cylinders, dood??!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif)
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post Jan 16 2005, 07:45 PM
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I'm legit, Boys. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rocking nana.gif)
K.T. Wills a/x stats

No points for the six (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) ( was an option for this series ) 914-6 power!

They dinged me for 75 pts for the cc increase however.

Guess who popped by... Randal! Out of nowhere.
Just as I finished dialing in the carbs.
We hit the Vineyard Lap. He was happy. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

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post Jan 16 2005, 07:49 PM
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now...lets say i drove up there for an auto x, what class would i be in...

2.0 euro, webers, tarett sway bar, 911 front end, 205/50 falkens stock exhaust, bumpers, and allpanels are steel..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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post Jan 16 2005, 07:52 PM
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You can class it yourself

http://sandbox.visualproduce.com/rulcomm_c...mm_evalform.php
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post Jan 16 2005, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (Paul Heery @ Jan 16 2005, 06:52 PM)
You can class it yourself

http://sandbox.visualproduce.com/rulcomm_c...mm_evalform.php

AX 10 and 475 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
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post Jan 16 2005, 08:01 PM
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Geesh, this is as bad as POC. My car got hit in a parking lot, body shop didn't want to find steel hood, so used FG. Bingo. Went from 'stock' right through 'improved' and into 'production' YeeHa! Glad I'm not in it for the money (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Aaron, you'd be in 'improved' with POC.
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QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 16 2005, 07:01 PM)
Geesh, this is as bad as POC.  My car got hit in a parking lot, body shop didn't want to find steel hood, so used FG.  Bingo.  Went from 'stock' right through 'improved' and into 'production'  YeeHa!  Glad I'm not in it for the money  :)

Aaron, you'd be in 'improved' with POC.

in the PCA AX down here im barely in C - street prepared..... almost in the dreaded "prepared" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

howie! you still got them schlicks? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Jan 16 2005, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Jan 16 2005, 05:49 PM)
now...lets say i drove up there for an auto x, what class would i be in...

2.0 euro, webers, tarett sway bar, 911 front end, 205/50 falkens stock exhaust, bumpers, and allpanels are steel.....  :idea:

doood, you have to come up and AX with us. we have a good crowd and lots of fun.

presumably you have a non-stock cam with those carbs, so you'd be Fm. with a stock cam, you might get away with Br.
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post Jan 16 2005, 08:11 PM
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Nathan, between your wide rims, racing seat, non-stock bumpers, induction system, cam, increased compression ratio, there's 165 pts I don't have. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

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post Jan 16 2005, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 16 2005, 05:45 PM)

No points for the six (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) ( was an option for this series ) 914-6 power!

That's if you assume that a 914-4 and 914-6 are in the same model series.

Kind of like saying the 911 and 912 are in the same model series.

I'm not sure which is correct.

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post Jan 16 2005, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 16 2005, 06:11 PM)
Nathan, between your wide rims, racing seat, non-stock bumpers, induction system, cam, increased compression ratio, there's 165 pts I don't have. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

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yup, and probably -165 lbs, too -- which i'll need if i've got a shot!

my "induction" system is just the carbs.


i think you have a different interpretation of the "extra cylinders" than do others, e.g. the Pickerings. i think the point in the 914 2.0 vs 914-6 as different models is to assign the /6 100 extra points -- the same as registering as a 2.0 but then adding 2 extra cylinders (as the pickerings have done).

shit, i've got no axe to grind, though -- none of that is official anyway. Fm is where the battle is! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)
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Trekkor

Just looked at the rules. Here's what is says to do in your case:


Modification Question
The engine does not have the same number of cylinders as stock, but an engine type with this number of cylinders was available in the same bodyshell group.
ACTION : Go back to the base model choice and select the car, from the same body shell group and the same number of cylinders as the engine type now installed.
ACTION : Go back to the engine capacity table and select the correct option for capacity increase. Answer all engine modification options as deviations from the stock configuration of the engine type for the base model now selected.



So this means that you must start your base classification as a 1970-71 914-6, and answer all engine questions as if it was a standard two liter 914-6. This means you will have no engine displacement extra points (your's is a 2.0 right?). But you may have cam points if those are not 'T' cams. etc etc.

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post Jan 16 2005, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 16 2005, 06:01 PM)
Geesh, this is as bad as POC.

it sure f-ing is. as i told trek just now (pm'ed), you could have a craptacular 1.7 with FI, skinny tires, and no sway bars. but if you have a non-stock cam in it, you're in Fm! my cam is what's keeping me out of Br (production 2litre with carbs*) and into Fm. all the Bi and Bp guys are stuck with a stock cam. in theory at least.

which is why i like the new (unofficial) points system.




*who in hell runs carbs on a stock cam anyway?
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post Jan 16 2005, 08:43 PM
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Thanks , Demick!

Here's another take, assuming my cams are not stock.

K.T. Wills ( 2 )

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post Jan 16 2005, 08:54 PM
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looks like Ahhndy is Fm; AX-5, running with the big boys on some real schlicks. resident german
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post Jan 16 2005, 08:58 PM
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you don't know your cam, Trek? thought you did... could put you back into AX7 with some luck... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

can't wait to see that /6 rip! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)





(can't wait to beat it, either.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) )
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