What would you pay for this 914? Options

[Mike Bellis]

Am I missing something here? Cuda lives in SoCal, the 914 Mecca and he's looking for cars in other states? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

There is a shit load on 914's in the greater los Angeles area. If you look in another state you will pay another $1000 for shipping.

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[KELTY360]

If that's a '75 then the bumpers have already been backdated, probably a result of the accident. That's a positive. Do you know where the car was hit? Is there any evidence of the damage?

Could be a good find...the color would grow on you.

[Cuda911]

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Am I missing something here? Cuda lives in SoCal, the 914 Mecca and he's looking for cars in other states? blink.gif There is a shit load on 914's in the greater los Angeles area. If you look in another state you will pay another $1000 for shipping.

You'd be surprised at how hard it is to find a clean 914 even out here, so I am looking everywhere. I find it odd how few 914s are posted for sale anywhere, let alone So CA.

I checked around... about $600 to ship the car here from MN.

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If that's a '75 then the bumpers have already been backdated, probably a result of the accident. That's a positive. Do you know where the car was hit? Is there any evidence of the damage? Could be a good find...the color would grow on you.

Ah, the car is a 1974!!! (still, isn't that a 1973 front bumper?) The car was purchased new on July 12, 1974. Mesa Porsche, La Mesa, CA. 1968 Dodge Charger taken as trade-in. Total price including tax: $6,400.69.

(The radio was a $150 option they added but it has FM!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)).

Looks like front was hit. There are legal documents for their settlement that detail injuries, but nothing that describes the accident.

The 1988 Allstate adjustor estimated required repairs at $3,974, and therefore declared it a total loss.

Here's a summary of the main parts listed in the estimate:

front bumper (and all associated parts like spoiler, lights, supports, etc.)
Front hood
L/& R fenders: repaired/aligned.

Car condition on the 1988 insurance appraisal listed as "good". Letter from Dieter's Porsche in San Diego stating that the car was regularly serviced there and in above average condition at the time of the accident. Receipts support this.

The original owners of the car bought it back from the insurance company.

As far as I can tell from the mountain of paperwork, the owner then stored the car until 1997, when the engine was pulled, sent to Mark Stephens High Performance of Tehachapi, CA. completely torn down, and rebuilt. New clutch at that time too.

There are receipts for work totalling $4,655.12, dated 12/9/1997, which correspond to the work that was needed per the 1988 insurance estimate. Very odd. All work was done by European Auto Body, a Porsche body repair specialist.

[dlkawashima]

1. Car #1: '73 2.0, very nice car. Very clean. About as rust-free as you can imagine.

As far as driving experience is concerned, how did the '73 compare to the '75, or did you not drive the '73?

[Cuda911]

1. Car #1: '73 2.0, very nice car. Very clean. About as rust-free as you can imagine.

As far as driving experience is concerned, how did the '73 compare to the '75, or did you not drive the '73?

I drove both cars. I certainly drove them VERY conservatively, since they are not my cars (I tend to be a bit harder on my own (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)).

I took the '73 onto the freeway for a few miles. It had no problem getting up to speed. I found it very pleasant. The 1970 I only drove on surface streets. So, probably not enough driving to really tell anything significant between the two cars. I think on the 1970, it felt like once I hit 3rd, I was pretty well hitting the limits of any semi-linear acceleration.

The 74 1.8 I drove today was very nice. I stayed on surface streets.

So, in the last two days I have driven a 1970 1.7, a 1973 2.0, and a 1974 1.8. I think it would take a lot more driving under differing conditions (hills, freeway, etc.) to really be able to discern the difference. On neighborhood surface streets, all three were similar. All three were fun.

[euro911]

As long as they move under their own power, they are fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[hot_shoe914]

That one's in Indiana. Where they salt the roads, and have winters that range from bad to Minnesota-level awful.

It's probably pretty rusty underneath...

Plus it's a long long way from Sandy Eggo.

--DD

It is in his price range, looks nice and there should be people close to do a PPI. Might be a gem.
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Don Hinds Ford is actually less than a mile from my house.....I can't believe that they actually have a 914 for sale! I'll have to cruise by there and see what it looks like.

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Let me know what you find out please.
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[arkitect]

The silver 1.8 with all the paperwork sounds like a good find but it doesn't have the 2.0 u were looking for. What is the plan, change the motor out? And what was stated earlier about a salvage title.

Dave

[Java2570]

That one's in Indiana. Where they salt the roads, and have winters that range from bad to Minnesota-level awful.

It's probably pretty rusty underneath...

Plus it's a long long way from Sandy Eggo.

--DD

It is in his price range, looks nice and there should be people close to do a PPI. Might be a gem.
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Don Hinds Ford is actually less than a mile from my house.....I can't believe that they actually have a 914 for sale! I'll have to cruise by there and see what it looks like.

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Let me know what you find out please.
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Hot Shoe- I just emailed the salesman at the Ford dealer and plan to try to take a look at it either Thurs or Friday. Curious to see what induction it's got and how it looks underneath. Salt is a major concern here, of course. Jon

[Java2570]

Being here in Indiana, I ended up purchasing a 914 from Pasadena and it was a salvage title as well. I got a good deal on it a couple of years back but I'd be more
cautious about buying another salvage car. I knew going into it what the salvage was from but the series of hoops I had to navigate to get it titled and plated was a major nuisance. Be aware of what the state requires before purchasing a salvage car.
I didn't spend much time reading the laws prior to buying and later found out that I had to show documents and such on the salvage, then have the car inspected across town, etc. It was a pain to do this all within the timeframe I had and the police location only had one date set aside for the fall. It was a PITA! After all was done, I was issued a "rebuilt" title and not a regular one. CA may or may not be easier....

[lsintampa]

IDK,

personally, I'd pass on a salvage title car.

Why do that when there is plenty of clean title inventory to choose from?

If you're second guessing the decision, consider the situation when you go to sell it (if you get to that point).

Just my .02 - not necessarily correct.

[KELTY360]

On that silver car, be sure to check inside the front trunk to see if you can see signs of the hit. That looks like a pre-1973 ft. bumper. Did the rear bumper have the tits?

Does it still have it's fuel injection?

[Chris H.]

Yeah that '75...take a look here:



And here:



Bumper is bent and it looks like there is some damage in the front trunk on that side. Either it was hit pretty hard or the repair wasn't done well. Normally I don't say much about stuff like that but if you're thinking about shipping it to California...

[Porschef]

Of the three, I'd go with silver.

1. It's a two owner car with full documentation. The repairs were done 26 years ago. If there were issues I think they'd have shown up by now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

2. It's a pre 75. No need to backdate bub's. (I'm in the middle of that one)

3. It's local. You can go back and have another look or three. Obviously they're looking for 6k, but you can negotiate.

4. It's not orange (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) , but silver's a great color. Right after Raveena....

5. It's on the road, ready to go.

6. It's a 1.8, so what. An engine is easy to change.

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[Cuda911]

OK, I've been pondering the silver car all night... I think it worked its way through some bizarre dreams (probably thanks to the Ambien).

As you guys know, I consider a "colorful" car a "must have". Since the collector value of the silver one was killed in 1987 due to the accident, I now feel free to do with it and bastardize it however I want. So, a One Day Paint N Body paint job, and it is the color I want. Next time it needs a rebuild, I swap in a 2.0.

I called my insurance company.... dirt cheap to insure the car... $200/year or less if I give it a stated value of 10K.

I spent a few hours researching regs and issues pertaining to Salvage Title. It varies greatly from state to state. In some states, as Java mentioned, salvage can be a HUGE PITA to register. Some states won't even allow a salvage car to ever operate again, it can only be sold to licensed dismantlers. Clearly, one needs to research the salvage title laws of their state before buying any salvage title car. Some states, a stolen car that is recovered is given salvage status, even if the car is fine. The general consensus is that a salvage title car should be discounted at least 30% to 50% from a similar nonsalvage car. Assuming you want to deal with the salvage issue at all.

I'm going to inspect the silver car in more detail... I had to cut short my inspection yesterday due to actually having to work and earn some $$ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

After reading through the massive documentation, I know the history of the silver car extremely well. So, if seller will give me a good price, I think I will buy it. He's asking too much right now.

It has the original fuel injection system, the sucky L-Jet. I say "sucky" only because that's what I keep reading... no personal experience with it. The wheels on it are definitely sucky. Hey, what will some Mahle's run? I looked on Ebay.... there's a guy selling Mahle knock-offs for $500 a set!

Ohhh.... I could have some fun with this car!!! Remember, I said I wanted a 914 as a toy. This car, I could play with, and never feel guilty about what I did to it!!

I've gotta do some serious driving today for work, so I won't be able to follow up until later this evening.

[Java2570]

That one's in Indiana. Where they salt the roads, and have winters that range from bad to Minnesota-level awful.

It's probably pretty rusty underneath...

Plus it's a long long way from Sandy Eggo.

--DD

It is in his price range, looks nice and there should be people close to do a PPI. Might be a gem.
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Don Hinds Ford is actually less than a mile from my house.....I can't believe that they actually have a 914 for sale! I'll have to cruise by there and see what it looks like.

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Let me know what you find out please.
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Shoe - I was driving past the dealer this AM and decided to stop and get a quick look.
It's not bad at all....paint is good, not great. It wasn't unlocked and no one came out to talk to me so I just had a peak under the car. Longs look solid and I didn't notice any rust there or in the floor boards. I did notice bolts had been used on the floor and I'm not sure if it was for the seat rails or a floor repair? SSI heat exchangers and Triad muffler, tuna can oil sump, front and rear sway bars, looks like Koni shocks on
rear (I think). Momo steering wheel, stock 3 gauge console, maybe aftermarket seats
and shifter....seat belts were red. Obviously, I couldn't get into the trunks or engine compartment but it did have a 914club badge on the lid. I didn't see any rust bubbles or bad spots in the body panels but the driver's door didn't fit great. At first, glance,
looks pretty solid. I'll hopefully take it for a test drive when the weather gives us something but rain....

[AlBreakit]

Found this in the classifieds,, not mine.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2048429

[Niche]

Yo, Mike, finally found your thread on the 914 search. Just pick one out and buy it!

Hi guys, I've been assisting Mike and I have to tell you, I'm surprised how expensive these little cars have gotten. The best driving one was the silver one. The orange was the best sounding and sportiest feeling and the red the best conditioned one. Kinda makes me want to get a 914 again.

[Cuda911]

Hey Niche,

Thanks for all your help in my 914 hunt!!!!

I have an offer in on the silver 1974 1.8. I met with the seller's wife again today. The husband is at work. I'm going back this evening at 7:15 pm with an envelope of cash.

So, I may be joining the 914 Owner's Club (is there any such thing) tonight! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The only rust I could find on the car is inside the rear trunk. The seller says it had no rust when they bought it a couple years ago, and it does look superficial. Now, I need to learn what to do to stop it in its tracks. Assuming the car is mine, I will start a new thread. I will have a million questions for you guys.

A few pix:

[Cuda911]

Look what's in my driveway!!!!
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