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| Trekkor |
 Jan 16 2005, 10:25 PM
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I do things...  Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California  |
I don't have the temp guage up and running yet.
I can tell you that the oil tank and filter are hot to the touch. I can hold my hand on it but starts to hurt. That hot. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) I remember years ago not being able to pull the dipstick on a typeI motor. That was hot. What temp is considered too hot? Safe range is? KT |
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| Joe Bob |
Jan 16 2005, 10:26 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
180-220 OK
230-240 warm 240-275 hot 275-300 real hot 300+ too damn hot |
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| J P Stein |
Jan 16 2005, 10:32 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
220-230 tops if you want it to live.
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| Bruce Allert |
Jan 16 2005, 10:44 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I just picked up an oil temp gauge. Hopefully it will respond with the proper temps from the sender I have.
There are 3 spade connectors on the back of it (a +, a - and an S). Am I correct in my thinking that the "S" is where the sending unit wire is connected? Wish me luck! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) ......b |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 16 2005, 10:59 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
vdo cockpit or a temp in the combo gauge? taco plate sender? |
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| Bruce Allert |
Jan 16 2005, 11:05 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Aaron
it's a VDO cockpit guage. Sender is in the Taco or that thingy that looks like a tuna can held in by a bolt under the engine NE of the oil drain! ......b |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 16 2005, 11:25 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
the sender that is in there is calibrated for the console and the in dash temp gauge.... i believe the cokcpit one is different (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
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| DuckRyder |
Feb 4 2005, 01:02 PM
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Avatars Mode: OFF because of the recalcitrant few. Group: Benefactors Posts: 767 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Georgia Member No.: 110  |
Hi,
I have the same questions, did we verify that the sender in the taco plate is wrong for the Cockpit gauge? Last time I drove the car in warmer weather the gauge was 3/4 of the way to the hot side. Can I just put a cockpit series gauge in there (change sender yes or no?) and find out how hot, hot is? I don't really trust the 30 year old gauge! But I'd prefer not to cook a new motor either... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Feb 4 2005, 01:18 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,609 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) ~200 is optimal, over 230 is too hot ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Andy |
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| jr91472 |
Feb 4 2005, 01:18 PM
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"I'm pacing myself sergeant..." Group: Members Posts: 1,205 Joined: 2-August 04 From: McKinney, TX Member No.: 2,437 |
do a search.
wasn't long ago, but someone posted a table of compatible senders and guages. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| machina |
Feb 4 2005, 01:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
I called VDO USA. They actually make several temp probes in the 150deg C range.
To be sure, I am going to remove my sensor and place it in boiling water with a known good manual thermometer and then calibrate the electric gauge. Boiling point for H2O at sea level is 212 deg F. |
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| Trekkor |
Feb 4 2005, 01:36 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Checked several hot spots with the pyrometer yesterday after hotting it up.
oil filter 194 oil tank 160 oil inlet to cooler next to header 204 It's currently wired to stock temp guage in console, reads at "P" in temp swipe. Same as hot FOUR. Someday I'll finish the wiring. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) KT |
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| Aaron Cox |
Feb 4 2005, 01:39 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
sounds like you could use one of these.....
JK....shameless plug..AA style Attached image(s) 
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| Trekkor |
Feb 4 2005, 01:45 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Already got one of these...
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| Aaron Cox |
Feb 4 2005, 01:46 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
what about a gas gauge? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Trekkor |
Feb 4 2005, 01:48 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Ordered one of these for the console in place of the temp guage...
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| Dave_Darling |
Feb 4 2005, 01:49 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California 
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Bruce Anderson says, of the 911 motor--
230F is hot. 240F is very hot. 250F is TOO DAMN HOT. Synthetic oils can withstand high temps better than old-fashioned "dinosaur" oils can. But heat has other bad effects on the engine, so keeping it under 250F is pretty mandatory IMHO. ...You are talking six-cylinder, right Trekkor? --DD |
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| Trekkor |
Feb 4 2005, 01:59 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Oh, yessss (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif) |
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| machina |
Feb 4 2005, 02:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
And here is what Jake says...
180-225 is perfect.. 225-245 is very warm and will require oil changes more frequently as it heats up the oil and breaks it down faster 250+ is very hot- Shut her down unless you have a pressure gauge and can ensure that you still have atleast 40 pounds of operating pressure. Hot oil is thin oil... thinning out the oil is what spins bearings and wears parts. Oil temps are directly related to RPM and ambient air temps. |
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