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> Hello everybody, 914's 2000 c.c motor in 1972
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post Jan 19 2005, 04:19 PM
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Hello everybody, I'm the recent new owner of a '72 Porsche 914. I've seen at "engine numbers" section of this web page that there are no 2000c.c. motors in1972 for the 914, but at "productions number" section, I've seen that in 1972 were produced 4817 models with 2000c.c. motors. Could anyone explain me this. Thank you and sorry for my poor English, I'm from Spain, Mallorca.
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post Jan 19 2005, 05:14 PM
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no 2.0L in '72 ...

there were 4817 2.0L "produced" in 72, but they were sold in '73 and are therefore '73 models ...

open the front trunk and go to the pass. side top of the fender.
there should be a chassis number stamped in there which will tell us the exact year of your car.

and welcome to the club!
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post Jan 19 2005, 05:16 PM
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What are the numbers stamped on the engine? Does the motor look kinda like this one? Pic of a 2.0L.


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post Jan 19 2005, 05:18 PM
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Where is it.. Hmm let's see we would take the bus from the ferry landing to Plaza de Palma and walk about 15 minutes. It stands out as a memory because it had a mechanical bull. But then again this was back in 1986 and 1987 while I was in the Navy. Oh the good old days.... Hey JWalters, the gut was in Naples!!

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QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Jan 19 2005, 03:06 PM)
If I go to Spain and Mallorca, I see another suitcase with parts being dragged to Europe....Monique is gonna love this!

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Atleast you car is pretty much ALL THERE! You should see Jeroen's 914! I have yet to see a running 914 in Europe even at Mittlemotor they didn't run.

Geoff

You'll see it runing, leave suitcases at home....
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post Jan 19 2005, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Jan 19 2005, 03:14 PM)
no 2.0L in '72 ...

there were 4817 2.0L "produced" in 72, but they were sold in '73 and are therefore '73 models ...

open the front trunk and go to the pass. side top of the fender.
there should be a chassis number stamped in there which will tell us the exact year of your car.

and welcome to the club!
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Tomorrow I'll post photos of the engine, chassis number is 4722900806.
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post Jan 19 2005, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Jan 19 2005, 03:16 PM)
What are the numbers stamped on the engine? Does the motor look kinda like this one? Pic of a 2.0L.

Mine it's a bit diferent.
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post Jan 19 2005, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (Sparky @ Jan 19 2005, 03:18 PM)
Where is it.. Hmm let's see we would take the bus from the ferry landing to Plaza de Palma and walk about 15 minutes. It stands out as a memory because it had a mechanical bull. But then again this was back in 1986 and 1987 while I was in the Navy. <Sigh> Oh the good old days.... Hey JWalters, the gut was in Naples!!

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I'll see if I see it.
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post Jan 19 2005, 05:30 PM
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This one is not from my 914 but I think that it's like mine.
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post Jan 19 2005, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (Sparky @ Jan 19 2005, 06:18 PM)
Where is it.. Hmm let's see we would take the bus from the ferry landing to Plaza de Palma and walk about 15 minutes. It stands out as a memory because it had a mechanical bull. But then again this was back in 1986 and 1987 while I was in the Navy. <Sigh> Oh the good old days.... Hey JWalters, the gut was in Naples!!

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post Jan 19 2005, 05:34 PM
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Ok guys, here it's 00:30 hours so I go to sleep, tomorrow the motor pics. thank you everybody.
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post Jan 19 2005, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE (Javi_914 @ Jan 19 2005, 03:30 PM)
This one is not from my 914 but I think that it's like mine

the engine in that pic is not a 2.0L.
your chassis number indicates that it is a fairly early '72. i seriously doubt it came with a 2.0L originally.
but, if you're lucky, someone put a 2.0L in there for you!

post some pics of the engine and we'll be able to tell ...

i've been to spain, had a unpleasant run-in with the guardia civil and haven't been back since (that was 20 years ago) ...
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post Jan 19 2005, 06:22 PM
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Ahndie,

I told you, don't screw with the Guardia.

Saw one pull his gun and shoot a purse snatcher

He dusted off the purse and gave it back to the woman with an appology. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)

Course that was 40 years ago and times change....

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post Jan 19 2005, 07:59 PM
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All those replies and only Andy makes any sense.

The 4 cylinder 2.0L engine was first installed in 1973 models. The 1973 model year started in Aug of 1972. Hence the 1972 production of 2.0L engines was all for 1973 model year. Your engine would have been a 1.7L model with an oil bath air cleaner.
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post Jan 19 2005, 08:43 PM
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Welcome!

Judging by the pic in your most recent post it's a 1.7L with an oilbath air cleaner.

Is Freddy's Bar still around? Was there in late January 82 . . . .

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post Jan 19 2005, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Jan 19 2005, 06:23 PM)
Welcome! Mallorca, hey I am trying to go there next summer! I hear its beautiful and whoops, sorry to hijack thread.

You have a late 72 with a 2.0l? Could have happened as the factory had terrible records keeping. We all know there also aren't any 76 1.8 cars, they never made a Green/white LE etc.

Geoff

They did make a green LE, or the dealers did. -shrug-

hmm... that made me wonder...


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post Jan 20 2005, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE (Javi_914 @ Jan 19 2005, 02:19 PM)
I'm from Spain, Mallorca.

btw. here's a link to one of my favorite german punk bands/songs from the early '80s ...

Band: Canal Terror
Song: Mallorca
From: 1982

http://www.sirandy.com/mp3/CanalTerror_Mallorca.mp3

the singer, Tommy, is a good friend of mine!
the band is long gone (but he's still active in the music scene).

just thought i "enrich" you guys with some german punk-history ...
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post Jan 20 2005, 01:51 AM
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Jan 19 2005, 10:35 PM)
QUOTE (Javi_914 @ Jan 19 2005, 02:19 PM)
I'm from Spain, Mallorca.

btw. here's a link to one of my favorite german punk bands/songs from the early '80s ...

Band: Canal Terror
Song: Mallorca
From: 1982

http://www.sirandy.com/mp3/CanalTerror_Mallorca.mp3

the singer, Tommy, is a good friend of mine!
the band is long gone (but he's still active in the music scene).

just thought i "enrich" you guys with some german punk-history ...
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German people love Mallorca. It's the first time Ihear this song.
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post Jan 20 2005, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE (davep @ Jan 19 2005, 05:59 PM)
All those replies and only Andy makes any sense.

The 4 cylinder 2.0L engine was first installed in 1973 models. The 1973 model year started in Aug of 1972. Hence the 1972 production of 2.0L engines was all for 1973 model year. Your engine would have been a 1.7L model with an oil bath air cleaner.

I only know the chassis number, but perhaps it was sold in 1973 and it was build in 1972. Today I will take the photos and we could know something more.
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Ok, as I promissed, here are the pics of my half-disassembled motor:
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) WOW! Those are 1.7-1.8 heads--but that does not mean the engine was not rebuilt with a set of 2.0 jugs and crank!! You will not know for sure until you get it all the way down.

Was this car ever in a mudslide??? Not poking at you, just wondering----by the looks of the outer engine shell--you may have problems with the internals being good.

Have you pulled the oil dipstick just to see what is lurking on it?? Just oil, oil very high up the stick, no oil, etc?????

All in all--you are not starting off with anything worse than many people had to begin with here--- (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Have you ever had the pleasure to drive one?? Intoxicating!!!! That is the only reason, well, not the only reason, that I do not bring all my stuff to the " wrecking yard " --I have driven it for a long time and now have it all busted down to the shell and individual pieces--tremendous work--but soon it will all be going back together--it will almost be brand new when I am done (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)

Keep talking to us about your problems--we can help--but use a little of your own personal common sense to what people may be saying here--there are a few loonies lurking around (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) Example: Search for : " Chopsticks" read the whole thread---nuff said. But all in all out of 3000 members, prolly over 1000+ of them have real indepth experience with these cars. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)

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