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| 14Maschine |
 Jan 20 2005, 06:26 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 18-November 04 From: Pleasanton, CA Member No.: 3,137  |
Hi everyone. I got my first 914 this last weekend. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) She is a 75 1.8. I would like to thank Rich and everyone else at HP House. Now its time to sort through the problems. Not many yet. First. When I de-accelerate, There is popping or sputtering. Could this be the exhaust? The cat was cut out. Or is it the De-accel valve? Or something vaccum related? Second. On a very steep grade starting out in first. There was smoke from under the engine. I imediatly stopped and drove home. Havnt driven on any hills after that. Seems like the clutch hasnt changed. Is my car just way to underpowered for this? Or do I need to be looking at a new clutch very soon? Mabey I will post some pictures soon. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| SLITS |
Jan 20 2005, 06:49 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
If the clutch didn't slip on the hill (engine rpm comes up, but speed doesn't), it could be a leaking push rod tube or valve cover gasket dropping oil on the heat exchangers.
Yeh, I'm an optimist. |
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| xsboost90 |
Jan 20 2005, 06:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 2-August 04 From: cincinnati Member No.: 2,432 |
good luck with the new car! I dont think these had a cat did they? THe exhaust is so short that it kinda pops and such on decel..kinda common.
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| 14Maschine |
Jan 20 2005, 07:02 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 18-November 04 From: Pleasanton, CA Member No.: 3,137 |
Definetly didnt smell like oil. I know the smell of grinding steel. Didnt the 75 and 76 cars have smog eqiupment like cats?
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| jr91472 |
Jan 20 2005, 07:49 PM
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"I'm pacing myself sergeant..." Group: Members Posts: 1,205 Joined: 2-August 04 From: McKinney, TX Member No.: 2,437 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chairfall.gif) welcome, you find all the help you need here |
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| skline |
Jan 20 2005, 07:59 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
75 and 76 cars had a cat installed from the factory for all cars sold in California.
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| spare time toys |
Jan 20 2005, 08:06 PM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Hi welcome to the club I think you will like it here. Oh yea if you ever get to thinking about putting a 928 engine in it Don't. Go with a 6 or SBC or a Flux Capacitor its got to be easier. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)
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| nebreitling |
Jan 20 2005, 08:35 PM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
welcome to the asylum!
re. the pops on decel: get under the car and look for rusted your exhaust. this is the number one cause of backfires (or, more accurately, after-fires). re. the smoke -- the clutch was slipping or not? post those pics!! |
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| jim912928 |
Jan 20 2005, 08:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,485 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Granger, IN Member No.: 1,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I had burning oil on my heat exchangers. Not burnt oil coming via the exhaust or bad rings/valves etc. I actually hade a huge oil like by the oil cooler....spraying oil onto the heat exchanges...and eewwww what a stink. Smelled like something burning...almost electrical. Go under the car and see if one side of your heat exchanges are really gunked with oil...and if you see alot of fresh oil somewhere.
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| Jeroen |
Jan 20 2005, 09:26 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
a slipping clutch smells like russel-sprouts (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/icon8.gif)
I don't think I've ever seen a clutch actually smoke though... oh and... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) |
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| balthazar |
Jan 20 2005, 10:09 PM
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P-car junkie Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: 23-March 03 From: Arvada, Colorado Member No.: 464 |
Smells like clutch! They should make a clutch flavored air freshener! They could have slipping clutch, oil burning on HX, leaking gas fire, oh and rusty battery tray! You would plug it in to the wall socket and....well maybe not (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)
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| mharrison |
Jan 20 2005, 10:53 PM
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Why do I bother???? Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 8-September 03 From: Madison, MS Member No.: 1,123 |
It may smell like clutch, but I bet it tastes like chicken..............
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| 14Maschine |
Jan 20 2005, 11:07 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 18-November 04 From: Pleasanton, CA Member No.: 3,137 |
OK, so I plan to get the car on jacks this weekend. I will check out the exhaust. I suppose a peice of tube had to be welded in to make up for the lack of cat. What exhaust systems should I consider? I hear that if I backdate (pre 75) I can pick up horsepower. I would also have to change the heat exchangers? If the exhaust system is realy rusty, couldnt emissions leak through the heat exchanger? Scary thought. BTW. I think I will stick with my T4 for awhile.
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| nebreitling |
Jan 20 2005, 11:23 PM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
yes, it's possible that if the HE's are rusted through you could get carbon monoxide in the cockpit. ask me how i know (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/icon8.gif) this shouldn't be the case, though.
you may just need a new muffler. if that's the case, only 75-6 style (obviously) will fit with your current HE's. this late model muffler style also requires a cat or cat by-pass tube. i have a cat laying around here that you can have if you want (no by-pass tube). the 75-76 HE's are the culprit in the late model exhaust (though i don't think they're as bad as some people seem to think), and you can back date the whole-shebang if you want, picking up a few hp. SS HE's and a bursch is the most common setup. or, after asking yourself what you want to do with the car first, you may opt for a header system. you'll lose all heat to the cabin in this case, but you'll pick up some power. $400-$1000. you can always put this on your next T4 engine, also. |
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| dinomium |
Jan 20 2005, 11:33 PM
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Git on a chair son, all the good stuff is goin over yer head! Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,777 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Bremerton, WA Member No.: 74 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Hey I was gonna say that one! Oh well Welcome to the club you know, this post would be better with pictures.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer3.gif) |
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| Joe Ricard |
Jan 21 2005, 07:07 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
So how exactly did HPH help you out? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
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| SLITS |
Jan 21 2005, 07:45 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) ****Gasp**** Set the emergency brake...start the car.....put it in 4th gear.....raise the rpms like you would starting out and let the clutch out.....if the engine dies, the clutch is prolly good....if it continues running, well....... Jared (Drifter Jay) showed up at the first WCC05 meeting belowing smoke...it wasn't oil...it was clutch...took it apart soon after that....nothing of the friction disk lining was left. |
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