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> 911 Dilemma, WTF
euro911
post Jul 15 2014, 10:12 PM
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I recently posted on a thread about 1964 911s on the Pelican site. A few days ago, a guy PM'd me from the Bird, asking about my '64 911. Technically it would be a M-Y 1965 if sold in the US at that time, but is considered a 1964 (ROW), as it is one of the unique 232 'first year cars' that were made and sold (in 1964). It is also currently registered as a 1964 with the CA DMV.

The guy has been a established member on Pelican since 2006, and is local in the Los Angeles area. I kind of know who he is, although we'e never met or conversed previously. There are pix in my 'Garage' on the Bird, so he's seen the car, although we all know that pix don't tell all ...


His PM starts off with "What a great 64 911... What are your plans with it? Are you going to restore it? Would you consider an offer to sell it? I look forward to hearing from you."

I told him that I do have plans to restore it, but if I were to think about selling it, an offer would have to be in excess of $150K.

He responds with "Thank you for getting back to me. I am still interested in your 64. Is is a numbers matching engine? Does the engine still turn over?"

I replied and provided him with a lot of info about the car, it's originality (matching engine and transaxle, etc.), current condition (roller with drive train removed), and all the repairs that the car needs to be a completely restored specimen.

I didn't hold back any negative info regarding rust repairs (front suspension pan, and other sections of the structure/body), and informed him that I possess a full set of floor pans, suspension pan, inner and outer rocker repair panels, etc. Over the past several years, I've also collected a lot of the rubber parts needed.

He responded again with "Great response. I look forward to talking with you. I am very excited to hear that it is original numbers matching. That is important to me. You can reach me anytime at ###.###.####. I look forward to hearing from you and hope we can do a deal."

My wife thinks I should think seriously about it (well, duh) ...

I haven't priced all the repair work yet, but the metal work, paint and the upholstery would all be done by 'professional' shops ... I can do the mechanical work (drive train), and have shot from the hip that $50K~$75K would be my total investment into the project (dollar-wise), not including my time.

Restored examples have recently sold in the $250K~$300K range on the world-wide market, and appear to continue upward as time marches on.


So I do have a dilemma on my hands. Should I continue on my restoration path, or should I consider selling the project if we can reach an agreement for a cash deal at the price I have in mind (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Anybody think I'm nuts if I sell it now ... or want to talk me out of it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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euro911   911 Dilemma   Jul 15 2014, 10:12 PM
Mike Bellis   If you can get $150k, sell it and buy 10 nice...   Jul 15 2014, 10:24 PM
Sfreeman615   If he is a serious verified cash buyer at $15...   Jul 15 2014, 10:26 PM
Jeffs9146   Having sold a 67 911s in 1991 for $9800 and t...   Jul 15 2014, 10:27 PM
Maltese Falcon   Restore and KEEP.   Jul 15 2014, 10:27 PM
swooshdave   I would be asking myself what i would do with a ...   Jul 15 2014, 10:30 PM
Cuda911   ^^^^ What about Option #3?: Let the car cont...   Jul 15 2014, 10:33 PM
colingreene   I feel like i know the guy who made the offer, The...   Jul 15 2014, 10:48 PM
PanelBilly   If you don't need the $, then keep it and...   Jul 15 2014, 11:04 PM
X911IC   Just one man's opinion, but if it were mine an...   Jul 15 2014, 11:15 PM
john77   I guess it depends what your thinking is. Do you t...   Jul 15 2014, 11:38 PM
bmendel   Have you checked in on the early 911s board? ...   Jul 15 2014, 11:47 PM
Elliot Cannon   Get a good evaluation of the car from more than on...   Jul 16 2014, 12:52 AM
Hawk   Just dangle that bait in the waters at early911sre...   Jul 16 2014, 04:00 AM
Porschef   I gotta agree with the last four posters, especial...   Jul 16 2014, 04:27 AM
mepstein   A lot of people want to be part of the 232 club. W...   Jul 16 2014, 05:00 AM
billh1963   A lot of people want to be part of the 232 club. ...   Jul 16 2014, 05:45 AM
gandalf_025   If it is truly a 901 car, it is in Rare Company. ...   Jul 16 2014, 05:18 AM
dudzy's914   I agree that the car deserves world class shop att...   Jul 16 2014, 05:39 AM
billh1963   .....keep it in the family for the next 50 years ...   Jul 16 2014, 05:47 AM
bulitt   If he's jumping at the 150, he knows it's ...   Jul 16 2014, 06:11 AM
Mark Henry   My bet is he plans to flip it for a profit.   Jul 16 2014, 07:02 AM
gereed75   I am no expert but I agree with several of the ide...   Jul 16 2014, 07:20 AM
Chris H.   I was wondering when this would happen. You have ...   Jul 16 2014, 07:48 AM
rhodyguy   sell the car for the right price mark. do you have...   Jul 16 2014, 08:24 AM
KELTY360   So let's say this little flirtation gets you m...   Jul 16 2014, 09:16 AM
JmuRiz   I would entertain offers and sell to the highest b...   Jul 16 2014, 09:33 AM
396   As some have suggested, we all are not getting any...   Jul 16 2014, 10:23 AM
peteyd   Don't sell the car for $150k. 911 values...   Jul 16 2014, 10:23 AM
scotty b   FWIW I agree this market is a huge bubble right no...   Jul 16 2014, 10:33 AM
ChrisNPDrider   Wow, very interesting dilemma. :blink: Does a h...   Jul 16 2014, 12:08 PM
rhodyguy   check with YOUR bank and see how well they respond...   Jul 16 2014, 01:55 PM
euro911   I bought the car 37 years ago for ... get this, ...   Jul 16 2014, 02:03 PM
Chris H.   Dianne and I have been discussing this over the ...   Jul 16 2014, 02:37 PM
mepstein   Dianne and I have been discussing this over the...   Jul 16 2014, 05:32 PM
swooshdave   In that case hand the car to someone you trust and...   Jul 16 2014, 02:18 PM
scotty b   In that case hand the car to someone you trust an...   Jul 16 2014, 05:06 PM
computers4kids   Sell...I could never enjoy driving a car worth tha...   Jul 16 2014, 08:01 PM
euro911   Yeah, Mark, I'll probably have to take her to ...   Jul 16 2014, 09:05 PM
X911IC   Yeah, Mark, I'll probably have to take her to...   Jul 16 2014, 10:04 PM
euro911   Mark, My friend's brother restores all of Jerr...   Jul 16 2014, 11:26 PM
bulitt   Mark, My friend's brother restores all of Jer...   Jul 17 2014, 03:36 AM
rhodyguy   you better put that car in secure storage. like a ...   Jul 16 2014, 09:49 PM
rhodyguy   in all fairness, i had no idea about the rarity of...   Jul 16 2014, 10:37 PM
Maltese Falcon   Mark, restore and keep. The only 911 Bubble is if ...   Jul 17 2014, 12:34 AM
horizontally-opposed   I'd sure listen to Marty's advice...someth...   Jul 17 2014, 01:03 AM
billh1963   Mark, restore and keep. The only 911 Bubble is if...   Jul 17 2014, 09:27 AM
euro911   Can I still cruise with you guys if I buy a Beck S...   Jul 17 2014, 03:48 AM
Chris H.   There's a rolling chassis 550 on e-bay...only ...   Jul 17 2014, 07:47 AM
914_teener   .....keep it in the family for the next 50 years...   Jul 17 2014, 08:58 AM
orthobiz   Regarding the fellow interested in your car: if hi...   Jul 17 2014, 09:08 AM
euro911   It's hard to read the future, especially in th...   Jul 17 2014, 03:45 PM
rhodyguy   watching "what's my car worth" and a...   Jul 18 2014, 10:53 AM
naro914   I can connect you with Ingram's if you want......   Jul 18 2014, 12:05 PM
Travis Neff   If I was in your shoes I would spend a bit more ti...   Jul 18 2014, 12:23 PM
naro914   Another thing to consider...now that you've ...   Jul 18 2014, 12:36 PM
bmendel   You guys need to reset your idea of value here, vi...   Jul 18 2014, 01:35 PM
naro914   You guys need to reset your idea of value here, v...   Jul 18 2014, 01:45 PM
Travis Neff   Wow! Its amazing the 911s are leaving the 356...   Jul 18 2014, 01:40 PM
rhodyguy   mark is getting richer in every other post #. RON...   Jul 18 2014, 02:54 PM
Steve   With all this press, you should bump up the insura...   Jul 18 2014, 03:09 PM
Travis Neff   bumping insurance has got to be the best advice ye...   Jul 18 2014, 03:38 PM
euro911   We're good Steve, and I do appreciate your ins...   Jul 18 2014, 04:10 PM
sixnotfour   We're good Steve, and I do appreciate your in...   Jul 18 2014, 09:30 PM
Travis Neff   Then get a fake set of those titties you always wa...   Jul 18 2014, 05:14 PM
euro911   :idea:   Jul 18 2014, 06:58 PM
Elliot Cannon   So, what does Dianne plan on doing with all this m...   Jul 18 2014, 07:39 PM
euro911   obviously... :stooges: Sell .... How many non-...   Jul 19 2014, 08:20 AM
SLITS   And about that 2.7L .............. <_< Not...   Jul 19 2014, 08:59 AM
larryM   we had this same conversation in this past year ab...   Jul 18 2014, 08:20 PM
bulitt   This is like watching a "Barn Find" stor...   Jul 19 2014, 04:55 AM
rhodyguy   looking forward to the "chasing classic car...   Jul 19 2014, 06:34 AM
orthobiz   Insurance and potential hassle of ownership of a t...   Jul 19 2014, 06:53 AM
naro914   Insurance and potential hassle of ownership of a ...   Jul 22 2014, 07:16 AM
SLITS   Sell .... How many non-running cars are on your p...   Jul 19 2014, 07:37 AM
euro911   That rings so true, Paul. Several years after we w...   Jul 19 2014, 07:39 AM
rhodyguy   obviously...   Jul 19 2014, 07:55 AM
euro911   I rounded up the 'machinable' engine compo...   Jul 22 2014, 11:07 AM
rhodyguy   well then. just put the engine in and autocross it...   Jul 22 2014, 11:13 AM
Chris H.   well then. just put the engine in and autocross i...   Jul 23 2014, 09:39 AM
rgalla9146   Oh the taxes ! Advertise and sell the car fo...   Jul 22 2014, 08:37 PM
euro911   We won't talk about your first line :shades2:...   Jul 22 2014, 09:13 PM
colingreene   I thought I had dibs on the 2.7....   Jul 23 2014, 10:18 AM
euro911   I thought I had dibs on the 2.7....C'mon, a 2....   Jul 23 2014, 12:46 PM
CptTripps   I had NO clue that these had crept that far north....   Jul 23 2014, 12:56 PM
Larmo63   Any sale I would do on this car would be CASH and ...   Jul 23 2014, 03:35 PM
euro911   With this many Benjamins passing hands, security i...   Jul 23 2014, 09:23 PM
Larmo63   ^^Exactly!!!!^^^^   Jul 23 2014, 10:35 PM
carr914   I wish I had held on to my 69S & 74 Euro Carre...   Jul 24 2014, 04:46 AM
naro914   Technically, its the buyer that pays the tax when ...   Jul 24 2014, 05:41 AM
rhodyguy   depositing the money (esp in such a large amount) ...   Jul 24 2014, 02:03 PM
Dr Evil   Yup, last time I worked in a financial institution...   Jul 24 2014, 02:11 PM
naro914   Yup, last time I worked in a financial institutio...   Jul 24 2014, 02:14 PM
euro911   $10K + does raise a red flag. Everybody wants...   Jul 24 2014, 03:01 PM


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