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> Has anyone snuck a 215/60R15 into a narrow 914?, Thinking about P6000s
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post Jul 16 2014, 06:07 PM
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Porsche lists the 215/60R15 as an N1 tire approved for 914-6, and I am considering them as they solve the too-small diameter problem I want to avoid. Currently, I'm on 195/65s. I used to run 205/55s and 205/60s, but all of these are too small in diameter.

I know the cars vary, but I was able to run various 205/55s with no rubbing and 205/60 Yoko A008Rs years ago with only a bit of rubbing on the inside (too much negative camber at that time). I'd be running these on 15x6 911 wheels, but may pop to have them turned into 15x7Rs by Weidman and do custom spacers. Big thing is to get a summer performance tire in there with, well, performance—and the right look.

That period look with any kind of performance is getting tough to find. If anyone has 215/60s on a narrow car, and can provide pics, I'd be very thankful!

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Tire selections are getting have been tricky if you want original sizes or something period correct. I like 205/50s for autocross cars, but their sidewalls are too short to my eyes. I like 225/50R15s quite a bit, but they require pulling fenders.

I'll leave the 14s and the CW tires to Coker Tire (where you can also buy Model T tires) and stick to what appealed to me as period-correct (or at least not "period WRONG") and still sporting options for a narrow 914 after a ton of personal research, phone calls, internet surfing, etc.

Coker Tire/Michelin XWX 185/70R15 (the hot tire of the day, standard equipment on the 911S and the +0 upgrade for 914s)
Notes: Can't get my head around $348 each for a tire this small, with such dated technology. Too concours/show & tell-oriented for me, and way too expensive to boot.
Find them here: https://www.cokertire.com/tires/michelin-xwx.html

Vredestein Sprint Classic 185/70R15 (the reasonably priced tire if you want period looks and decent performance)
Notes: Period tread pattern and sidewalls, probably better than the Coker Michelin XWX and a LOT less expensive at $140 each; nice steering response, nice ride, not so great in terms of ultimate grip. Bought a set 8-10 years ago. Just weren't for me, but a lot of people like them.
Find them here: http://www.vulcantire.com/cgi-bin/tiresear...t_classic_t.cst

Avon CR6ZZ 185/70R15 (just bought a set, will mount them shortly...)
Notes: We'll see about ride and handling, but everyone raves about them; definitely have the period look, with tall, plain sidewalls. Available in three compounds, with 29 being the hardest and 31 being the softest (you want 29s for the street). Narrower than I wanted, but I am told even the hardest version has a LOT more grip than any street-spec 195 or 205. Roger Kraus Racing carries them for $280/tire. Not cheap—unless you compare them to Coker XWXs. They do seem like good value against a modern N-spec Porsche tire, given their specialty nature—though they won't last as long. You can also get CR6ZZs in 215/60R15.
Find them here: http://rogerkrausracing.com/pages/pricing.html

Dunlop SP Sport 195/65R15 (a good middle of the road, affordable tire with reasonable grip by modern standards and a sidewall and tread pattern that don't look completely alien on a 1970s car)
Notes: Sidewall too modern for me, but better than most. A favored tire of Rod and Gary Emory for street-oriented 356 hot rods where Hoosiers won't work. Grip okay, ride okay, but distinctly not sporting—even if they are probably superior to the best tires of the 1970s. Bought a set, but am taking them off after 1,000~ miles. Just not for me. But: $65~ each is a bargain for what you get.
Find them here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?gc...0160211172230:s

Michelin Pilot Sport All-Season 3 205/55R16 (what a great street tire!)
Notes: I almost moved on to 16-inch wheels just to mount a set of these. I put a set of them on our 2013 Abarth at $129~/tire and it may be my new favorite street tire. It's AVS Intermediate good, and maybe better. Crazy grip (better than many summer tires, apparently), very quiet, and carries a tread wear rating of 500. I'm not expecting that long a life given the grip, but will be fun finding out if it's hogwash. If the Avons don't work out, this may be my next plan.
Find them here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...romCompare1=yes

Michelin TB & TB15 (perfection, at a price)
If I was running a GT-flared 914 on 15-inch wheels, and perhaps one day I might be, the choice would be a lot simpler. I'd run Michelin TB15 tires (vintage race/tarmac rally tire) on 15x7&9-inch Fuchs. They have wonderful grip, REALLY nice steering response, and killer good looks. Jeff Zwart is running them on his yellow 914-6, and I was blown away by them. The fronts are 215/55R15, the rears are racing sizes but not all that hard to figure out for the back of a 914 (the same size as the front of a RSR 2.8).
Find them here: http://www.summitracing.com/search/product...elin-tb15-tires

Hope this is helpful for someone else!
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horizontally-opposed   Has anyone snuck a 215/60R15 into a narrow 914?   Jul 16 2014, 06:07 PM
SirAndy   All you need is a baseball bat ... :smash:   Jul 16 2014, 06:20 PM
Bruce Hinds   I'm running Falken 215/60 x 15 all the way aro...   Jul 16 2014, 06:40 PM
horizontally-opposed   I'm running Falken 215/60 x 15 all the way ar...   Jul 16 2014, 10:36 PM
Eric_Shea   Your future is calling... http://www.914world.com...   Jul 16 2014, 07:09 PM
horizontally-opposed   Your future is calling... http://www.914world.co...   Jul 16 2014, 10:37 PM
boxsterfan   I've got 205/60/15 on 2.0L Fuchs on my narrow ...   Jul 16 2014, 09:30 PM
rick 918-S   Porsche lists the 215/60R15 as an N1 tire approve...   Jul 16 2014, 10:36 PM
horizontally-opposed   I ran 215's on 8's but I had spacers and...   Jul 16 2014, 10:41 PM
Mike Bellis   I'll loan you my fender roller. Let me know......   Jul 16 2014, 11:12 PM
McMark   It's all about offset. ;)   Jul 17 2014, 02:21 AM
Wdunster   I have 225 50 16 on the rear with stock quarters. ...   Jul 17 2014, 08:26 PM
mgp4591   I have 225 50 16 on the rear with stock quarters....   Jul 18 2014, 12:10 AM
Dave_Darling   I didn't roll the quarters either. Maybe you ...   Feb 7 2016, 11:54 AM
Keyser Sose   Here, some 215x45x16 on 7" 911 SC Fuchs, fron...   Jul 18 2014, 01:41 PM
rick 918-S   Here, some 215x45x16 on 7" 911 SC Fuchs, fro...   Feb 7 2016, 11:51 AM
Porschef   Here, some 215x45x16 on 7" 911 SC Fuchs, fron...   Feb 7 2016, 01:25 PM
Mhead   Will the 215/60's fit the 5 1/2 steel wheels? ...   Feb 7 2016, 11:40 AM
Bruce Hinds   Will the 215/60's fit the 5 1/2 steel wheels?...   Feb 7 2016, 12:22 PM
Bruce Hinds   215/60 x 15 phone dials, 6" up front and 7...   Feb 7 2016, 12:17 PM
Larmo63   If you had the rear wheels widened, you could play...   Feb 7 2016, 01:47 PM
bdstone914   How much wider is a 215 than a 205? 215-205 = 10M...   Feb 7 2016, 10:54 PM
horizontally-opposed   How much wider is a 215 than a 205? 215-205 = 10...   Feb 8 2016, 12:49 PM
blackmoon   How much wider is a 215 than a 205? 215-205 = 10...   Feb 9 2016, 11:19 AM
rhodyguy   Pete, I thought you had taken the 185/70-15 path. ...   Feb 8 2016, 07:15 AM
Mhead   So, will the combo work? ...or is it too much ti...   Feb 8 2016, 09:56 AM
Bruce Hinds   So, will the combo work? ...or is it too much t...   Feb 8 2016, 10:24 AM
rhodyguy   there you go. smart move. sooner 1 crappy tire tha...   Feb 8 2016, 12:55 PM
Mhead   Thanks all...The idea of mounting one tire and try...   Feb 8 2016, 08:02 PM
Bruce Hinds   someone just posted a good idea for that. He spok...   Feb 8 2016, 08:13 PM
rick 918-S   Tire availability for anything in 14-15-16 is givi...   Feb 9 2016, 08:50 AM
Racer   Tire availability for anything in 14-15-16 is giv...   Feb 9 2016, 05:33 PM
horizontally-opposed   Tire selections are getting have been tricky if yo...   Feb 9 2016, 11:00 PM
horizontally-opposed   Okay, so I found the pics I took during the 215/60...   Feb 11 2016, 08:18 PM
horizontally-opposed   Okay, so there was hope, or at least a little. The...   Feb 11 2016, 08:25 PM
horizontally-opposed   Sorry for a couple of sideways pics up above. Darn...   Feb 11 2016, 08:29 PM
horizontally-opposed   The Pirelli P6000 disappointment led to a new aven...   Feb 11 2016, 08:31 PM
Larmo63   Pete, I have a set of 5mm spacers you can have for...   Feb 11 2016, 08:32 PM
Larmo63   I'd venture to say that a set of 7R wheels wil...   Feb 11 2016, 08:34 PM
horizontally-opposed   Where I started back in 2006~: A set of old, hard ...   Feb 11 2016, 08:34 PM
Larmo63   You might need a set of these too.   Feb 11 2016, 08:35 PM
horizontally-opposed   You might need a set of these too. At some po...   Feb 15 2016, 10:56 AM
horizontally-opposed   So the next stop was Vredestein Sprint Classics in...   Feb 11 2016, 08:37 PM
horizontally-opposed   So I wrote a column for some lousy magazine about ...   Feb 11 2016, 08:40 PM
Larmo63   Somebody is tire obsessive. :driving:   Feb 11 2016, 08:43 PM
horizontally-opposed   Somebody is tire obsessive. :driving: Don't...   Feb 11 2016, 08:54 PM
horizontally-opposed   By 2012-2013, it was time for fresh tires. A lot o...   Feb 11 2016, 08:45 PM
horizontally-opposed   Lest you think I tried everything, I haven't. ...   Feb 11 2016, 08:52 PM
Matty900   Porsche lists the 215/60R15 as an N1 tire approve...   Feb 15 2016, 12:20 AM
horizontally-opposed   [quote name='horizontally-opposed' post='206...   Feb 15 2016, 10:49 AM


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