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| Andyrew |
 Jan 27 2005, 04:00 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait  Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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Mark what size studs did you use for a 1in spacer? 100mm?
I want to fit 225 45 17's on the front.. would the (im guessing that there 67mm studs on the back) studs that I have on the back be able to fit a 1in spacer? no huh.... Would it be different on the front Maybe I can use a 3/4 in spacer??? Im trying to avoid buying 20 new studs... Heck I dont even want to buy 8 studs at 9 bucks a piece!! (pelican) Where can I get 100 mm studs?? |
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| SirAndy |
Jan 27 2005, 04:05 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
i got mine (70mm and 100mm) out of the used parts bin at EASY ... much cheaper than new ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Andy PS: the 70mm will be enough for a 1" spacer (assuming you have real 5-lug, i don't know about 4/5 adapters) ... |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 27 2005, 04:12 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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IF I had adapters, I wouldnt need to run a spacer.. lol! but thats working backwards... No adapters... adapters are evil.
Hmm easy eh? I think I might have to check that place out.. Im guessing its in the san fran area?? How much did you get your stuff for? Thanks Andrew |
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| lapuwali |
Jan 27 2005, 04:17 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743  |
EASY is in Emeryville, near Berkeley. European Auto Salvage Yard.
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| Joe Bob |
Jan 27 2005, 04:17 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
The fronts...if on a 911 front end need to be a bit longer since you are going thru a 911 "hat"...same with an "adapter" On a five lug rear end, I have 100 mm studs with a one inch spacer....with 1 inch of stud extending passed the open nut. My fronts have 100 as well with one inch spacer but only 3/4 inch of a stud exposed...... I got my studs from HPH.....if you want to sell the studs there are plenty of buyers....I need some.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Jan 27 2005, 04:17 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
don't remeber exactly, bought a whole bunch of stuff that day, but it don't think i paid more than 20 bucks for all 20 studs ... the 100mm are pretty rare, i got lucky, but he had a whole bunch of 70mm studs there, i think they're pretty common on the 944s ... EASY European Auto Salvage Yard Porsche Parts and Accessories 4060 Harlan Street Emeryville, CA 94608 tel.: 510 653-3279 http://www.easypor.com/ (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Andy |
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| marks914 |
Jan 27 2005, 06:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 9-October 04 From: the motor city Member No.: 2,912 Region Association: None |
I used standard lugs with bolt on spacers. Easy way to do it.
Mark |
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| Joe Bob |
Jan 27 2005, 07:03 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
So.....what happens when the inside nuts loosen up? Depending on the the wheel....you can't even see them under the spokes....This happens at an amazing frequency.
Adapters are dumb.....do it the right way, get long studs and use SPACERS. Adapters are banned at most AX, ALL DE and Timetrials.... |
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| SirAndy |
Jan 27 2005, 07:07 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
according to who ????? i have NEVER heard of inner nuts coming lose on an adapter other than people saying: i knew someone who knew someone who said he heard of someone who had this happening to him ... i have been using 5/5 bolt on adapters for 4 years now, with one season of heavy AX use and i *never* had any problems with them ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) Andy |
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| marks914 |
Jan 27 2005, 07:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 9-October 04 From: the motor city Member No.: 2,912 Region Association: None |
On mine anyhow, the spacers have nuts that have locking "teeth" on the backside. The 5 to five pattern is not banned as far I I know though. Plus I can see them through the cutouts in the wheel/hub interface. I do agree that adapters are not allowed at sanctioned racing events. Mark |
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| Mueller |
Jan 27 2005, 07:08 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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I still think it's user error for those to come loose... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) |
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| seanery |
Jan 27 2005, 07:13 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I had 5 to 5 adapters on the 951 when I put the 17" Box S wheels on it.
The nut that held the adapter in place can not come off the hub when the wheel is attached...at least with the wheels I had. There is a flat surface that covered the lug nut on the adapter, it could loosen I guess, but it couldn't come off. |
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| neo914-6 |
Jan 27 2005, 08:50 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
They were pretty tight (maybe with lock tight) on the hubs when I removed one of them. |
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| Joe Bob |
Jan 27 2005, 09:04 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Well I have been a scrutineer for more than a few race sanctioning events....they were banned in the list of what to look for. I used them for a short time on Frank...they came loose and I cranked the shit out of them....I got them free in some trades....I pounded out the studs and used them as slip on with longer studs. .
TUV in Germany does not allow them....."I" think it's a dumb idea....but, Hey, it's your car, your ass...just don't drive in front of me.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Jan 27 2005, 09:13 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
actually, the set i have *IS* TÜV approved ... all you need to use them properly is a torque-wrench and the know-how to use it ... if properly torqued the nuts hold just like any "outside" wheel nut. if they came lose, i vote for "user error" over "design error" plus, like said above, the nuts couldn't come off the studs, even if they wanted to. you get me (any) 4 random 914s and i'll bet'ch'ya 2 out of the 4 will have lose front wheel bearings. now *that* scares me ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) Andy |
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| SirAndy |
Jan 28 2005, 03:08 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
and here's a link to the H&R website
in german ... http://www.h-r.com/index.php?inhalt=produk...kt-d&sprache=de in english ... http://www.h-r.com/index.php?inhalt=produk...kt-d&sprache=en 4th from the top ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Andy quote from their website: "Like all of H&R’s street-engineered products, H&R TRAK+ wheel spacers are certified by the German Technical Inspection Agency (TÜV)." |
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| horizontally-opposed |
Jan 28 2005, 03:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None
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Andy (or anyone),
Do you suppose 7-mm spacers are enough to knock the front end alignment out of spec? I suspect one-inch would certainly do so, but then this question has been rolling around in my head for a few weeks... Can you get away with 7, 10, 15, 50 mm spacers w/o re-aligning the car or is this a really, really stupid question? pete |
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| SirAndy |
Jan 28 2005, 05:08 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
i don't see how a spacer would change the alignment ... i did not re-algin my car after adding the spacer front/rear. i added 1 1/4" in the front and 1 1/2" in the back. i didn't notice anything different other than turning the wheel at low speed is much harder and i can go around corners faster ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Andy |
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